Just upgraded to Kubuntu Gutsy Gibbon using a burned dvd downloaded from the net. Did not experience any problems. <br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 10/27/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">Ryan Bayona</b> <<a href="mailto:ryan@gbsmanila.com">
ryan@gbsmanila.com</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Hi Roy,<br> i used the CD to upgrade my dapper drake to feisty fawn. i opted not to
<br>use the online upgrade because my internet here is slow, and so i just<br>downloaded and burn feisty fawn in our office.<br><br><br><br>On Sat, 2007-10-27 at 15:23 +0800, roy choco wrote:<br>> Hi,<br>><br>> Thanks. I've come to the conclusion that I would need to upgrade
<br>> using the cd. And I'm too much of a noob in linux to be monkeying too<br>> much for the online upgrade to fail. My own upgrade from Edgy to<br>> Feisty also failed. I thought that was because I installed automatix.
<br>> So while using Feisty, I usually just used the add-remove utility.<br>><br>> Although I think that I did install a couple of packages manually,<br>> using instructions from the internet, and I did monkey around with the
<br>> setting of xorg when I upgraded my video card.<br>><br>> I'm just glad to hear I'm not the only one that experience such<br>> difficulties. :)<br>><br>> Thanks again.<br>><br>> On 10/27/07, Bopolissimus Platypus Jr <
<a href="mailto:bopolissimus.lists@gmail.com">bopolissimus.lists@gmail.com</a>><br>> wrote:<br>> On 10/25/07, roy choco <<a href="mailto:roychoco@gmail.com">roychoco@gmail.com</a> > wrote:<br>> > I was trying to upgrade to Kubuntu Gutsy yesterday, I
<br>> encountered some<br>> > problems while gutsy was installing, ling story short, I<br>> think I hosed my<br>> > system. All the stupid things I did can be read at<br>
> ><br>> ><br>> <a href="http://batongpatay.blogspot.com/2007/10/upgrading-to-gutsy.html">http://batongpatay.blogspot.com/2007/10/upgrading-to-gutsy.html</a><br>> ><br>
> > Any help, including telling me how stupid I am will be<br>> appreciated :)<br>><br>> I've done that thrice (online upgrade, Dapper to Edgy, Edgy to<br>> Feisty,<br>
> Feisty to Gutsy). It has never worked flawlessly for me.<br>><br>> <a href="http://monotremetech.blogspot.com/2007/05/online-feisty-upgrade-washout-again.html">http://monotremetech.blogspot.com/2007/05/online-feisty-upgrade-washout-again.html
</a><br>><br>> For Edgy to Feisty I gave up and installed from CD. I think I<br>> might<br>> have found a<br>> way to get Dapper to Edgy to work, but I don't remember. I'm
<br>> afraid I<br>> might need<br>> to reinstall again for Gutsy. Mainly, my online upgrades<br>> would fail because the<br>> .deb system that Ubuntu uses is a bit too inflexible for
<br>> me. Or I'm<br>> messing with<br>> my system too much and it's my fault. Or both. For instance,<br>> at one or another<br>> point I would just rm -f a file from /etc/init.d because I'm
<br>> too lazy<br>> to inactivate it<br>> the right way. Trying to apt-get remove the package that owns<br>> that<br>> file would then<br>> fail (sometimes requiring dpkg --configure -a to fix).
<br>><br>> Sometimes too (I think this was with courier related packages<br>> during<br>> the Dapper to<br>> Edgy update), more than one package thinks it owns a given<br>> file.
<br>> Uninstalling one<br>> file makes the other package unable to uninstall since it<br>> won't<br>> uninstall if it can't<br>> find a file it's supposed to delete. Now *that* I think is a
<br>> weakness<br>> in the rules for<br>> that particular package. Existence of a file that is going to<br>> be<br>> deleted anyway should<br>> not block an uninstall from completing, it should just skip
<br>> the file<br>> since the effect would<br>> be the same anyway. I think what I ended up doing (since I<br>> knew how<br>> to use strace<br>> and still don't know how to read .debs) was strace the
<br>> uninstaller,<br>> figure out what<br>> file it was missing, and touch the file so that it would have<br>> an empty<br>> file to remove :-).<br>><br>> I've tried the gutsy online update already. I would say that
<br>> you<br>> probably should *not*<br>> accept any console errors if things go wrogn. Instead, figure<br>> out and<br>> fix each error<br>> as it appears (
e.g., creating missing files, if that's what's<br>> required, or apt-get removing<br>> the package that is just breaking before continuing the<br>> upgrade).<br>> When the upgrade
<br>> completes cleanly, then you would just reinstall any packages<br>> you removed.<br>><br>> Of course, the problem with this is that some packages are<br>> needed by<br>> too many other
<br>> packages and you can easily break X or similar. If that goes<br>> on too<br>> long, well then,<br>> just reinstall from CD. I'm probably going to try working out<br>
> the<br>> online upgrade for<br>> the next few days (holiday on monday, after all). If I can't<br>> get<br>> everything working<br>> by Nov 5, then I'll install from CD.
<br>><br>> I'm sure that for naive users, the online upgrade works pretty<br>> well.<br>> The problem is,<br>> I install packages from universe, I upgrade some packages and
<br>> not others, I<br>> use some packages from Trevin0, I install some things from<br>> source. Sometimes<br>> I'll install/upgrade from source without removing the<br>> corresponding package via
<br>> apt-get or synaptic :-). The ubuntu packages don't seem to be<br>> engineered for that<br>> sort of chaos. All of that is understandable and as<br>> expected. Inconvenient for
<br>> me though. And if you've been monkeying with your system at a<br>> level lower than<br>> synaptic, then you've probably broken your system in similar<br>> ways,<br>
> which is why it<br>> won't upgrade now.<br>><br>> tiger<br>><br>> --<br>> Gerald Timothy Quimpo <a href="http://bopolissimus.blogspot.com">http://bopolissimus.blogspot.com
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<br>> and discovers that they didn't actually understand it yet<br>> after all.<br>> <a href="http://www.gotw.ca/publications/concurrency-ddj.htm">http://www.gotw.ca/publications/concurrency-ddj.htm
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