[Ubuntu-PH] ubuntu-ph Digest, Vol 82, Issue 19

Efren D. Montales Jr. kidsodateless at gmail.com
Sat Jun 9 10:45:44 UTC 2012


We're here at Starbucks

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>    1. Re:  First Ubuntu Hour (Zak B. Elep)
>    2. Re:  First Ubuntu Hour (claive alvin Acedilla)
>    3. Re:  First Ubuntu Hour (Erwin Olario)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2012 17:13:30 +0800
> From: "Zak B. Elep" <zakame at ubuntu.com>
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> On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 9:57 AM, Erwin Olario <govvin at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Tamang-tama, I'll be at ZC at the end of this month. We could do an
>> Ubuntu
>> Hour there, too. :)
>
> I'll be late, just acquired a new toy just now and installed Quantal on it
> ;)
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> I'll bring a box then for Yolynne and some extra CDs for the folks at
> the coffeeshop.  Where is it now btw, at Starbucks or Figaro?
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> Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2012 12:32:56 +0300
> From: claive alvin Acedilla <cabpacedilla at gmail.com>
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> To Yolynne Medina <yolynne at gmail.com> and Erwin Olario <govvin at gmail.com> :
> Maybe you can also organize for Chavacano translation in Zamboanga City.
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> On 6/9/12, Zak B. Elep <zakame at ubuntu.com> wrote:
>> On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 9:57 AM, Erwin Olario <govvin at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Tamang-tama, I'll be at ZC at the end of this month. We could do an
>>> Ubuntu
>>> Hour there, too. :)
>>
>> I'll be late, just acquired a new toy just now and installed Quantal on
>> it
>> ;)
>>
>> I'll bring a box then for Yolynne and some extra CDs for the folks at
>> the coffeeshop.  Where is it now btw, at Starbucks or Figaro?
>>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2012 17:39:13 +0800
> From: Erwin Olario <govvin at gmail.com>
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> anyone here?  what should i be looking for?
> On Jun 9, 2012 1:37 PM, "claive alvin Acedilla" <cabpacedilla at gmail.com>
> wrote:
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>> Efren, unahin natin ang Ubuntu help kasi yun ang documentation ng Ubuntu.
>> Tapos ito yung suggestion ko sa workflow ng translation:
>> 1. Di ba  may iba-ibang language ang Philippine translation (Bikol,
>> Cebuano, Filipino, Hiligaynon, Iloko, Pampangan, Pangasinan, Tagalog,
>> Waray), so dapat may tig-iisang master file or something ng Ubuntu Help
>> file ang bawat language. Kung gusto pang dagdagan ang Philippine
>> language,
>> dagdagan pa para may representative sa bawat language sa Pilipinas.
>> 2. Dapat may mga representatives na mag translate sa bawat language:
>> Bikol,
>> Cebuano, Filipino, Hiligaynon, Iloko, Pampangan, Pangasinan, Tagalog,
>> Waray, etc
>> 3. Tapos sabay-sabay tayong mag-translate at mag-compare ng ating mga
>> translations para iisa ang thought ng ating mga translations . Kasi ang
>> translation ang pagsalin kung ano ang ibig sabihin ng isa. Kahit sino
>> pwedeng mag contribute ng kani-kanilang mga translations.
>> 4. Tapos titingnan ngayon ng mga reviews ang translation contributions.
>> 5. Tapos i-upload ng mga reviewers magustohan nila na translation
>> contribution sa master file.
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 6:40 AM, claive alvin Acedilla <
>> cabpacedilla at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> No problem Efren,
>>>
>>> I- layout nating ang process ng pag-join.
>>> I-layout nating ang process ng pag-translate.
>>> I-layout natin ang process of ng translation workflow.te
>>> Pag na layout yung process ng translation workflow, malalaman na ng mga
>>> team members kung ano ang mga function ng mga roles sa translation
>>> workflow.
>>> Malaman na ng team members ang step-by-step ng translation workflow.
>>> Kahit sino pwedeng mag-translate, mag-review, etc.
>>> Kung gusto nila na isang role lang ang gaganapin nila, ok lang din.
>>> Basta purpose natin is isalin natin para maintindihan sa ating salita.
>>> Mas maganda rin pag isalin ginagamit ang mga "conversational" or
>>> "everyday" words para mas madali intindihan.
>>> Yes, lets focus sa Ubuntu desktop base installation
>>> So i-lista na rin natin kung ano ang mga features at bundled apps ang
>>> i-translate (like Applications Menu, System Menu, Preferences Menu,
>>> Ubuntu
>>> Help, etc )
>>> Sabay-sabay tayo magtrabaho at magtulungan sa mailing list, forum, irc,
>>> facebook, google+, etc . Gawin nating workspace and mailing list, forum,
>>> irc, facebook, google+, etc
>>> Sa Filipino na lang siguro ako kasi nag represent na sa lahat nga
>>> languages sa Pilipinas kasama na ang Tagalog.
>>> To all, please help kung ano ang magagandang mga proceso para
>>> ma-translate ang Ubuntu at magamit ang Ubuntu sa lahat ng Pilipino gaya
>>> ng
>>> pag-campaign.
>>> Yung mga stickers ay magandang paraan din sa pag campaign.
>>> Efren, I hope the first Ubuntu hour will go well.
>>> So to all Ubuntu users in the Philippines, please help in brain storming
>>> sa first Ubuntu hour at sa susunod ng mga araw
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 10:55 PM, Efren D. Montales Jr. <
>>> kidsodateless at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> @Claive, Nice to meet you and your big effort to get the translation
>>>> project back.
>>>> yup i believe localization is really a big task so we really need to
>>>> work harder like the 300 warriors of spartans. We don't need to
>>>> translate
>>>> all apps, what's important are the OS, and Default apps. dun muna tayo
>>>> magfocus. :)
>>>>
>>>> But before we get started
>>>> let's make our own documentation first as our short term goal, feel
>>>> free
>>>> to add:
>>>>
>>>> 1.How to get started? how to join the team?
>>>> 2.How and who will approve the suggested translation?
>>>> 3.Who will review the suggested translation? (kailangan pa ba nating
>>>> kumunsulta sa suri?n ng Wik?ng Pambans? (National Language Institute)?
>>>> 4.Tagalog or Filipino? alin ba sa dalawa ang dapat nating gamitin? i
>>>> believe we must decide to choose one para mas madali nating matapos ang
>>>> localization(kung Tagalog bakit? at kung Filipino Bakit?).
>>>> 5.
>>>> 6.
>>>> 7.
>>>> 8.
>>>> 9.
>>>> 10.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> @rick bahague, sa labas lang ng starbucks, ako nalang palatandaan hehe,
>>>> long hair nakalaptop ako ng may malaking sticker ng mozilla firefox,
>>>> may
>>>> sticker din ng ubuntu local team philippines
>>>>
>>>> @rickhard wyrd, hanging out on G+? sounds good.. we can do it as our
>>>> online event next time
>>>>
>>>> @Erwin Olario, Thanks for the info, sorry pero late na masyado para
>>>> magchange pa ng event's venue sa fb, nagpost din ako sa fb group e.
>>>> next
>>>> time nalang
>>>>
>>>> @Zak, can you bring some press CDs kung meron pa? :D
>>>>
>>>> @John Crisostomo, pumunta na kayo kahit walang sticker hehe
>>>>
>>>> @Jean, thank you! nakapagcreate ka na pala, kakagawa ko lang ngayon,
>>>> idedete ko na :)
>>>>
>>>> On Friday, 08 June, 2012 11:30 PM,
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>>>>>    1. Re:  First Ubuntu Hour (Erwin Olario)
>>>>>    2. Re:  First Ubuntu Hour (Jean Austin Rodriguez)
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>>>>> Message: 1
>>>>> Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2012 20:27:52 +0800
>>>>> From: Erwin Olario<govvin at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: feleciano
>>>>> buenavista<fgbuenavista at yahoo.**com<fgbuenavista at yahoo.com>>,
>>>>>       "Mailing List para
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>>>>> So are we agreed on the venue: Figaro @ Gateway Mall, Cubao, QC,
>>>>> Saturday,
>>>>> 1700-1900 PST
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Friday, June 8, 2012, feleciano buenavista wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  Meron bang stickers? Pahingi dikit ko sa kotse at sa 2 Ubuntu server
>>>>>> dito
>>>>>> sa opis.
>>>>>>
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>>>>>> *From:* John
>>>>>> Crisostomo<jdcrisostomo at gmail.**com<jdcrisostomo at gmail.com>
>>>>>> <javascript:_e({},
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>>>>>> *To:* Mailing List para sa Ubuntu Pilipinas (Philippines)<
>>>>>> ubuntu-ph at lists.ubuntu.com<**javascript:_e({}, 'cvml',
>>>>>> 'ubuntu-ph at lists.ubuntu.com');**>>
>>>>>> *Sent:* Friday, June 8, 2012 4:35 PM
>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [Ubuntu-PH] First Ubuntu Hour
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sana may magdala ng mga stickers :D
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 3:46 PM, hard wyrd<hardwyrd at gmail.com>  wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sa mga malalayo, meron bang G+ Hangout or something similar ? :) Yun
>>>>>> eh
>>>>>> kung ok lang..
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 3:35 PM, rick<rbahaguejr at gmail.com>  wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Punta ako. Just have a sign somewhere para madali mahanap.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 1:49 PM, claive alvin Acedilla<
>>>>>> cabpacedilla at gmail.com>  wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is a very good start Efren!
>>>>>> The first Ubuntu hour for Ubuntu Philippines.
>>>>>> I hope many can attend.
>>>>>> Too bad im an OFW. But no worries so let us campaign more so that
>>>>>> more
>>>>>> will join and more will help the translation.
>>>>>> We also need to campaign from Radio Stations and Television because
>>>>>> Radio
>>>>>> and Television are more accessible to people and basic communication
>>>>>> channels where people can get information.
>>>>>> So let us go to the Radio stations and Television station to
>>>>>> campaign.
>>>>>> I think campaigning in Radio Stations is free and there is a
>>>>>> Government TV
>>>>>> channel and maybe it is free also.
>>>>>> We need also to campaign in the Government and Private businesses
>>>>>> Maybe we can at schools because schools are connected to the
>>>>>> Government
>>>>>> and the Government will know about Linux and Private businesses will
>>>>>> follow.
>>>>>> We will go to schools by posting campaigns their bulletin boards and
>>>>>> convince people that you will not keep reinstalling your operating
>>>>>> system
>>>>>> if you install Linux because your operating system will be bogged
>>>>>> down
>>>>>> by
>>>>>> viruses like Windows.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Linus Trovalds asked for help in the internet for his operating
>>>>>> system
>>>>>> hobby project before.
>>>>>> Look at Linux now.
>>>>>> Linux is "bayanihan" where everybody will just help. Maybe Linus
>>>>>> Trovalds
>>>>>> is Filipino because he knows what is bayanihan.
>>>>>> So there is no harm to ask help.
>>>>>> Let us work together in the mailing list, forum, irc, meetings (like
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> incoming Ubuntu hour on Saturday, 09 of June, 2012 at 17:00-19:00, i
>>>>>> hope
>>>>>> many can attend)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Do you know that Google use Ubuntu.
>>>>>> Here is what Eduardo Bergavera edbergavera at gmail.co posted on his
>>>>>> Google+
>>>>>> page:
>>>>>> http://www.ubuntuvibes.com/**2012/05/how-google-developers-**
>>>>>> use-ubuntu.html?m=1<http://www.ubuntuvibes.com/2012/05/how-google-developers-use-ubuntu.html?m=1>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Efren, if translating the Ubuntu base installation is a bigger task,
>>>>>> maybe
>>>>>> we can make our own distro listing only the neccessary software that
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> Filipinos need and remove some features on the Ubuntu base
>>>>>> installation
>>>>>> that is not needed by the Filipino so that we will translate only the
>>>>>> apps
>>>>>> that are most used by Filipinos like web browser, chatting software
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> word processing. For games, most Filipinos are playing online games
>>>>>> using
>>>>>> the web browser. This is just an idea to minimize the task in
>>>>>> minimizing
>>>>>> the translation task of the Ubuntu base installation. Like Google
>>>>>> above
>>>>>> from the link, the made their own distro by removing some features on
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> base installation. We also try supporting the LTS version so that the
>>>>>> distro is more stable.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Efren, I hope the Ubuntu hour will be successful and all will enjoy
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> meeting with food and drinks (juice and little beer :))
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers from me with a San Miguel beer on my hand!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers to all Ubuntu users in the Philippines and all open source
>>>>>> software
>>>>>> users in the Philippines!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 7:23 AM, Zak Elep<zakame at gmail.com>  wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 9:50 AM, Erwin Olario<govvin at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Why not at Figaro, instead? Not only are they a Filipino company,
>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> also
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> source their coffee from local farmers. There's one in Gateway mall.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Would love to network with you guys.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> +1 on Figaro, my favorite coffee shop. :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I might be in the area on that day as I hav
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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