[Ubuntu-PH] Hosed my System
roy choco
roychoco at gmail.com
Sat Nov 3 14:53:15 UTC 2007
Just upgraded to Kubuntu Gutsy Gibbon using a burned dvd downloaded from the
net. Did not experience any problems.
On 10/27/07, Ryan Bayona <ryan at gbsmanila.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Roy,
> i used the CD to upgrade my dapper drake to feisty fawn. i opted
> not to
> use the online upgrade because my internet here is slow, and so i just
> downloaded and burn feisty fawn in our office.
>
>
>
> On Sat, 2007-10-27 at 15:23 +0800, roy choco wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Thanks. I've come to the conclusion that I would need to upgrade
> > using the cd. And I'm too much of a noob in linux to be monkeying too
> > much for the online upgrade to fail. My own upgrade from Edgy to
> > Feisty also failed. I thought that was because I installed automatix.
> > So while using Feisty, I usually just used the add-remove utility.
> >
> > Although I think that I did install a couple of packages manually,
> > using instructions from the internet, and I did monkey around with the
> > setting of xorg when I upgraded my video card.
> >
> > I'm just glad to hear I'm not the only one that experience such
> > difficulties. :)
> >
> > Thanks again.
> >
> > On 10/27/07, Bopolissimus Platypus Jr <bopolissimus.lists at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > On 10/25/07, roy choco <roychoco at gmail.com > wrote:
> > > I was trying to upgrade to Kubuntu Gutsy yesterday, I
> > encountered some
> > > problems while gutsy was installing, ling story short, I
> > think I hosed my
> > > system. All the stupid things I did can be read at
> > >
> > >
> > http://batongpatay.blogspot.com/2007/10/upgrading-to-gutsy.html
> > >
> > > Any help, including telling me how stupid I am will be
> > appreciated :)
> >
> > I've done that thrice (online upgrade, Dapper to Edgy, Edgy to
> > Feisty,
> > Feisty to Gutsy). It has never worked flawlessly for me.
> >
> >
> http://monotremetech.blogspot.com/2007/05/online-feisty-upgrade-washout-again.html
> >
> > For Edgy to Feisty I gave up and installed from CD. I think I
> > might
> > have found a
> > way to get Dapper to Edgy to work, but I don't remember. I'm
> > afraid I
> > might need
> > to reinstall again for Gutsy. Mainly, my online upgrades
> > would fail because the
> > .deb system that Ubuntu uses is a bit too inflexible for
> > me. Or I'm
> > messing with
> > my system too much and it's my fault. Or both. For instance,
> > at one or another
> > point I would just rm -f a file from /etc/init.d because I'm
> > too lazy
> > to inactivate it
> > the right way. Trying to apt-get remove the package that owns
> > that
> > file would then
> > fail (sometimes requiring dpkg --configure -a to fix).
> >
> > Sometimes too (I think this was with courier related packages
> > during
> > the Dapper to
> > Edgy update), more than one package thinks it owns a given
> > file.
> > Uninstalling one
> > file makes the other package unable to uninstall since it
> > won't
> > uninstall if it can't
> > find a file it's supposed to delete. Now *that* I think is a
> > weakness
> > in the rules for
> > that particular package. Existence of a file that is going to
> > be
> > deleted anyway should
> > not block an uninstall from completing, it should just skip
> > the file
> > since the effect would
> > be the same anyway. I think what I ended up doing (since I
> > knew how
> > to use strace
> > and still don't know how to read .debs) was strace the
> > uninstaller,
> > figure out what
> > file it was missing, and touch the file so that it would have
> > an empty
> > file to remove :-).
> >
> > I've tried the gutsy online update already. I would say that
> > you
> > probably should *not*
> > accept any console errors if things go wrogn. Instead, figure
> > out and
> > fix each error
> > as it appears (e.g., creating missing files, if that's what's
> > required, or apt-get removing
> > the package that is just breaking before continuing the
> > upgrade).
> > When the upgrade
> > completes cleanly, then you would just reinstall any packages
> > you removed.
> >
> > Of course, the problem with this is that some packages are
> > needed by
> > too many other
> > packages and you can easily break X or similar. If that goes
> > on too
> > long, well then,
> > just reinstall from CD. I'm probably going to try working out
> > the
> > online upgrade for
> > the next few days (holiday on monday, after all). If I can't
> > get
> > everything working
> > by Nov 5, then I'll install from CD.
> >
> > I'm sure that for naive users, the online upgrade works pretty
> > well.
> > The problem is,
> > I install packages from universe, I upgrade some packages and
> > not others, I
> > use some packages from Trevin0, I install some things from
> > source. Sometimes
> > I'll install/upgrade from source without removing the
> > corresponding package via
> > apt-get or synaptic :-). The ubuntu packages don't seem to be
> > engineered for that
> > sort of chaos. All of that is understandable and as
> > expected. Inconvenient for
> > me though. And if you've been monkeying with your system at a
> > level lower than
> > synaptic, then you've probably broken your system in similar
> > ways,
> > which is why it
> > won't upgrade now.
> >
> > tiger
> >
> > --
> > Gerald Timothy Quimpo http://bopolissimus.blogspot.com
> > gquimpo at qsr.com.ph bopolissimus.lists at gmail.com
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> > Everybody who learns concurrency thinks they understand it,
> > ends up finding mysterious races they thought weren't
> > possible,
> > and discovers that they didn't actually understand it yet
> > after all.
> > http://www.gotw.ca/publications/concurrency-ddj.htm
> >
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