[Ubuntu-PH] Should we be bothered?

Thu Nov 16 09:06:42 UTC 2006

Sir, pa-explain naman po bakit gugulo, at bakit useless... mukha po kasing
mahihirapan kayong ma-convince ang mga tao dito sa inyong naturan.

On 11/16/06, Charles Yao <ccyao at greenleecp.com> wrote:
>
> Wag na nilang iamend,i scrap na lang nila yung bill, kung ganyan din lang.
> Useless din naman kung yan lang gagawin nila, gugulo lang lalo ang systema.
>
> *Jopes <jofellxcite at gmail.com>* wrote:
>
> Ay kung ganun po, mukhang mahihirapan sila. Siguro pede pong gumawa ng
> changes sa bill, pero hindi tutulan ito as a whole. Sabi sa akin ng
> work-mate ko dito, kaya ino-oppose ng PSIA ang bill kasi, isang bulk ng mga
> projects ng mga MS-software-based na companiesay ang government. Mawawalan
> sila ng business. Unfair nga siguro sa side nila, pero paano naman ang
> savings ng government para mapunta sa mas mahahalagang projects ang pondo?
>
> Yung tanong ko po kanina, hindi flame po. Gusto ko po sanang makarinig ng
> mga tao na may alam sa bill na ito. Narinig ko lamang po ito kaya nais ko
> pong mapakinggan yung nilalaman nito, implications, at disadvantages.
>
> On 11/16/06, Franz Allan Valencia See <franz.see at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > kung tama ang pagkaka-Quote ng inq7.net, sa tingin ko "forced" nga ang
> > gusto ng bill na yun.
> >
> > At kung force nga, di ako sang ayon don. parang katungali yun ng isa
> > sa mga inaAdvoate ng mga OSS na freedom e. kaya nga nilabas yung code
> > e, para may freedom yung mga tao kung ano gagawin nila don sa software
> > mo (aaralin, eenhance, etc).
> >
> > On 11/15/06, Jopes <jofellxcite at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Puwede po bang paki-analyze yung bill po? Kasi hindi naman ata
> > "forced"
> > > usage of FOSS ang mangyayari eh. Parang sa UP siguro. If you can pay
> > for the
> > > licenses, and u have excess budget for that, why not buy it. As for
> > > givernment agencies na hanggang ngayon ay pirated ang Windows copy,
> > mahusay
> > > na i-push ang ganitong batas.
> > >
> > >
> > > On 11/16/06, Charles Yao <ccyao at greenleecp.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Srry to say this, but as a user, FOSS is not necessarily more
> > efficient.
> > > It does have benefits. For the ordinary user, the problem with drivers
> > and
> > > compatibility with common software is still a problem. Maybe from a
> > > programmers view FOSS is more efficient, as he can play around with
> > the
> > > software. But the end user just want something that works out of the
> > box
> > > without any hassles. This is one of the problems I encounter in my
> > company,
> > > Im reluctant to add  more Ubuntu machines since im not sure if the
> > will work
> > > with the current printer scanners etc that we have. the last time I
> > did it
> > > it took me weeks before everything worked, compared to alsmost
> > immediately
> > > on our macs and windows machines.
> > > >
> > > > Change is inevitable, but change to what? If FOSS wants to be the
> > dominant
> > > force in desktop or server computing it still has a long way to go.
> > > especially on the desktop side.
> > > >
> > > > Jerome Gotangco < jgotangco at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > There are just some people who prefer to stay in their comfort
> > zones.
> > > > One of the basic rules of life is that change is always inevitable.
> > > > Unfortunately, most of the software industry, especially those very
> > > > comfortable in their spheres, prefer it their way instead of the
> > > > efficient way.
> > > >
> > > > I am not saying that FOSS is the most efficient, but it has proven
> > to
> > > > be with proper handling and study. More brains are always better
> > than
> > > > a few paid ones. Passion is a differentiating factor.
> > > >
> > > > Jerome
> > > >
> > > >
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> > >
> > > --
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> > > you begin to understand... there is no going back?
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> > > - Frodo Baggins (LOTR Return of the King)
> > >
> > > Belated Labor Day (ano daw?)!
> > >
> > > Jofell S. Gallardo
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> --
> "How do you pick up the threads of an old life?
> How do you go on... when in your heart...
> you begin to understand... there is no going back?
> There are some things that time cannot mend.
> Some hurts that go too deep... that have taken hold."
>
> - Frodo Baggins (LOTR Return of the King)
>
> Belated Labor Day (ano daw?)!
>
> Jofell S. Gallardo
> www.jofell.com
>
> Founding Engineer
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-- 
"How do you pick up the threads of an old life?
How do you go on... when in your heart...
you begin to understand... there is no going back?
There are some things that time cannot mend.
Some hurts that go too deep... that have taken hold."

- Frodo Baggins (LOTR Return of the King)

Belated Labor Day (ano daw?)!

Jofell S. Gallardo
www.jofell.com

Founding Engineer
Xacktunes - iTunes backup application
www.xacktunes.com
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