[Ubuntu-pa] CIDETYS

Vie Ago 7 03:02:38 BST 2009

Thank you, Manuel.  Very informative...
Charlie Warner

> From: manuel.arguelles en gmail.com
> To: ubuntu-pa en lists.ubuntu.com
> Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 20:22:47 -0500
> Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-pa] CIDETYS
> 
> Hello Charles (and the rest),
> 
> The thing in University of Baja California is called CETYS, and I'm sure it 
> has nothing to do with CIDETYS... so what is CIDETYS?? it seems that no one 
> knows and this worries me a bit.
> 
> The only thing I could find about them was this:
> 
> http://www.osbr.ca/ojs/index.php/osbr/article/view/735/701
> 
> I will love to know where they get the funds for they salaries... According to 
> the site their goals are:
> 
> 1. Push linux and computers to public schools in Panama, sounds nice, but we 
> all know this is not as easy at it sounds and will probably fail, it is not 
> just throw a bunch of pre-installed linux computers to them, you need to teach 
> the teachers... and this is almost impossible...
> 
> 2. "Create a small and medium technology enterprise incubator. [...] It offers 
> facilities equipped with technology and experts to help entrepreneurs thrive 
> during the initial steps of creating a company. The technology includes 
> computers with Internet and business software, telephone and fax. The experts 
> include a lawyer, an economist and university professors with entrepreneurial 
> knowledge that can offer mentoring and advice." Here it is!! so new companies 
> give them some cash and they give "a computer with internet"... whatever that 
> means... business software... !? telephone, fax and a guy that will tell you 
> if your idea will, will not, may or may not be a success... how innovating! 
> 
> 3. "Organize workshops and conferences about grid computing and 
> telecommunication networks" ... another way to get some money, nothing more 
> obscure and mystical that grid computing and telecommunications... 
> 
> And what does Panama say? "The opportunities to create projects that bring 
> social benefits are endless. CIDETYS is a noble initiative that has strong 
> support from the government, universities and technology centers in Panama and 
> international technology centers such as FUNDECYT in Spain. There is an 
> opportunity to bring together other initiatives around ICT's and OSS from 
> technology centers, companies and independent organizations in Panama, that 
> can find a common ground and collaborate through CIDETYS" ... What are they 
> selling? what a wonderful way to waste a paragraph without saying nothing.  
> 
> My point is... this is an *International* NGO without a web site (!). They 
> probably do nothing, just search for naives entrepreneurs...
> 
> The first thing that raised the alarms on my head was the title... "The 
> International Center for Technological Development and Open Source Software" 
> what on heart does that means?? what technology they plan to develop? open 
> source?? already done (probably before they were even born), sorry... If we 
> take out the "Technological Development (or development of something technical 
> that we don't know yet... and may never know)" we have "International center 
> for open source software" Is this some kind of union for open source 
> developers? there's even something like that already... fsf.org... 
> 
> For me this is nothing more than another scam, first was the .com heap 
> (remember the .com crisis) now is the turn for open source, everyone wants to 
> be part of it, even if they have no idea whatsoever about it... so lets all 
> inflate the bubble... 
> 
> There's no way for an NGO, organization or anything like that to improve the 
> public education, only the government has the funds for this, they can load a 
> couple of schools with computers and open source software but sooner or later 
> that will let to nowhere. 
> 
> This is a typical example of something that has a lot of icing but no cake at 
> all, technology, research, internet, telecommunications, entrepreneurs, 
> cluster computer, grid computer, information highway, consulting, bla bla 
> bla... where are the products? where are the real services? where are the 
> benefits? nonexistent!
> 
> Excuse me if I don't take this guys seriously at all... thanks for reading my 
> rant :p
> 
> 
> -- 
> Paco
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> 
> 
> 
> > Manuel-
> > CIDETYS takes you to the University of Baja California (Mexico).  I don't
> > know what that has to do with Software Libre. I have been following this
> > discussion, and would like to know if anyone in that organization is
> > interested in applications related to data acquisition, CAD, or other
> > technical or scientific applications- if so, I may have something to
> > contribute...
> >
> > Charles Warner
> >
> > > From: manuel.arguelles en gmail.com
> > > To: ubuntu-pa en lists.ubuntu.com
> > > Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 15:10:25 -0500
> > > Subject: [Ubuntu-pa] CIDETYS
> > >
> > > Este "Centro Internacional de Desarrollo Tecnológico y Software Libre"
> > > cuenta con una página web? o algo?
> > >
> > > google dice que no...
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Paco
> > > http://p4c0.wordpress.com/
> > > http://www.linuxlatino.org/
> > > http://www.geekmechanics.net/
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> > >
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> > > http://panama.ubuntuforums.org/
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