Minutes from the Technical Board meeting, 2009-02-24

Scott James Remnant scott at canonical.com
Thu Mar 5 11:08:46 GMT 2009

Apologies for the late sending of this, I had it all ready to send last
Wednesday (with Maria's help) but it got stuck in my Outbox!

= Attendees =

 * Matt Zimmerman (chair)
 * Mark Shuttleworth
 * Colin Watson
 * Scott James Remnant

= Minutes =

== Should technical-board at lists.ubuntu.com be public? ==

 * Technical-board@ serves two purposes:
   1. a contact address to reach the TB (and only the TB)
   2. a mailing list to discuss TB matters
   for 1., a private list is appropriate, but for 2., it is not.

 * Currently, the Technical Board is responsible for the following
   documents and processes:
   1. The Ubuntu Package Policy,
   2. Ubuntu Release Feature Goals,
   3. Ubuntu Package Selection,
   none of that stuff should be private, however there needs to be a
   quick, easy and memorable way to talk privately to or among the TB.

 * No objections to subscribing select people to the TB list who are
   also participating but not actually on the TB.  It was also
   reaffirmed that where possible, we should shift discussion of public
   matters from t-b@ onto ubuntu-devel@

   The TB will stay private so long as we only use it for discussions
   which ought to be private, and nothing else e.g. if someone emails
   technical-board@ and raises a technical concern, we must redirect
   that to ubuntu-devel at .

== MOTU Council list of nominees for MOTU Council Election ==

 * Appointments to the board are made by Mark Shuttleworth subject to
   confirmation by a vote amongst the maintainers

 * The CC (and TB) will determine a shortlist of candidates and set up
   Launchpad polls accordingly so team members can vote.

 * The polls might take the form of confirmation votes or of a race
   between more candidates than the available seats on the Team Council.
   MC has been well organised, growing it gives an opportunity to
   develop more leadership talent so 2 other seats will be added.

 * The three nominees are: Daniel Holbach, Nathan Handler, and Jonathan

ACTION: sabdfl to set up Launchpad polls including per-package uploaders
for MC nominee confirmations

== SRU guidelines for Landscape ==

 * https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LandscapeUpdates

 * Sometimes, the Landscape client code must be updated to take
   advantage of improvements/updates to the Landscape server...and this
   is their reasoning for the need to be part of an SRU.

 * The reasons why Landscape is suitable, given the negotiations to
   date, are:
   - it has an extensive test suite (yes, like other packages in the
   - its developers have committed to doing specific QA on a variety of
     upgrade and fresh-install combinations
   - it has very limited interactions with the rest of Ubuntu, that are
     straightforward to enumerate so that we can have a clear idea of
     regression potential
   - those interactions have been specifically called out in the
     mandatory QA process that each upgrade must go through
   - its developers have agreed to work within the Ubuntu update

 * Landscape developers originally raised:

 * We want assurance that the potential impact is limited, and that the
   testing conducted is sufficient to provide the level of assurance we
   expect for stable updates.

 * We've entrusted the SRU team to assess the QA aspect and will review
   that ourselves as well based on the document that outlines the
   criteria we used to make the decision and includes the sentence ("the
   TB will consider additional applications in due course following
   similar criteria")

ACTION: cjwatson to write up a formal decision which the TB can then
vote on

== Upload permission for Romain Francoise for 'emacs-snapshot' ==

 * https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/emacs-snapshot

 * Jono has been in touch with Romain. To be followed up

== Other ==

 * Codecs in ffmpeg, jono is working on

 * Archive reorg governance ACTION: cjwatson to rework archive reorg
   proposal to unblock governance work

 * mdke's application was dealt with by email and privileges granted.

Scott James Remnant
scott at canonical.com
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