I would look at this as pro/con and see what works best. What would we gain by switching to XFCE? -Nick <div>On 9/26/07, Mario Limonciello <<a href="mailto:superm1@ubuntu.com"> superm1@ubuntu.com</a>> wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Folks, As many people know, we are planning to move the Mythbuntu environment over to Xfce.  Unfortunately, this has a lot of hard to deal with ramifications for the existing packages. The move is all prepared for the Live environment on CD, and works fine there.  The "Mythbuntu Administration" session also has everything but the background prepared. The problem comes with the normal environment's current openbox based session.  The normal environment works by using the ubuntu-mythtv-frontend package.  This sets up openbox, gdm, feh, a background and some automatic login tricks. How do we handle the migration over to the new Xfce based env?  I'm not sure it makes sense for existing feisty ubuntu-mythtv-frontend users that upgrade to gutsy to suddenly get these dependencies on Xfce, and consequently all these mythbuntu packages too.  To me, it's almost making more sense to just make the "Mythbuntu Administration" session the only session ever logged into, and probably rename it to "Mythbuntu".  When the user chooses to do an automatic login, add mythfrontend to the list of apps automatically started.  If they choose not to, then take it off this list.  I figure this would make for the least breakage for most users, and probably keep our end simpler in the end. What do other people think? -- Mario Limonciello <a href="mailto:superm1@ubuntu.com" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"> superm1@ubuntu.com</a> -- Ubuntu-mythtv mailing list <a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:Ubuntu-mythtv@lists.ubuntu.com">Ubuntu-mythtv@lists.ubuntu.com</a> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: <a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mythtv" target="_blank">https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mythtv</a> </blockquote></div>