[ubuntu-my] Ubuntu ditches X for Wayland?

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Fri Dec 10 07:51:05 GMT 2010


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On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 10:58 AM, Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte <
msiantuxlover at gmail.com> wrote:

> MS Office and OpenOffice.org are different suites. They are similar
> but not the same so therefore there will be differances.
>
> I have no doubt that many are familiar with Excel and there are many
> finance people who will rather die than give up Excel. But think of it
> this way, if companies such as Oracle or Novell or RH can do their
> businesses fine with OpenOffice.org Calc, so it must be usable. Again
> I will have to admit that I am a FOSS fanatic in some ways.
>
>  As for codecs, well the Free/Ope Source versions are contentious, to
> avoid the whole legal issues I just bought my DVD Player and Codecs
> from Fluendo, since I use my work notebook for entertainement as well.
>
> As for the swicth to Wayland the geek me is happy. Let us see how it
> will pan out. I am not "guru" enough to understand and appreciate the
> complexity of implementing it however.
>
> Eric
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 5:35 PM, starconsultancy
> <f.van.der.star at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Last one of Eric is a very good comparison.
> >
> > Guys and girls I dont want to make you upset but I am used to be a
> "fanatic'
> > open-source-user.
> >
> > But lately I get involved with some Spreadsheet functions, like:
> > VLOOKUP
> > Consolidate and
> > (Data)-Validation
> >
> > These are actually database-function within spreadsheet. And.....very
> > practical!
> >
> > Personally this convertion was quite hard to me but I mus say I prefer
> using
> > Excel.
> > Much more comprehensible and much easier.
> >
> > Or..........maybe I missed a course/training in Open Office.
> >
> > Suggestions are welcome.
> >
> > About Suse: "Deutsche puenktlichkeit" That is she can join with SAP.
> > In my home country, which is not Germany, medium businesses are using
> mostly
> > SUSE-server.
> > One remark in this regard: Red HAT is not so popular/well-known. In big
> > stores SUSE is available
> > for about 60 euro. By the way other option is free download. Last one is
> for
> > consumers only.
> >
> > For the server, which is actually quite cheap, should be paid.
> >
> > For the more advanced (mostly academic) engineers Mandriva (France) is
> also
> > popular. Actually
> > little community. But all the codecs are in the box (not like Ubuntu).
> >
> > Wondering is George Bush using Red Hat???
> >
> >
> > Kind regards
> >
> > Frans
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 10:43 AM, Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte
> > <msiantuxlover at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Well there are many who swears by FOSS but prefer Windows or Mac.
> >> Using Mac for FOSS advocacy is like using nuclear weapons to promote
> >> world peace. Same level as George W Bush....
> >>
> >> On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 12:41 PM, najmi.zabidi at gmail.com
> >> <najmi.zabidi at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > And finally the FOSS people fire up the Mac OS X for the FOSS slides
> >> > and presentations.
> >> > Hardly to easy Ubuntu on stages.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 12:37 PM, Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte
> >> > <msiantuxlover at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> Generally Enterprise users are a pretty boring bunch of people. They
> >> >> want their stuff to work all the time. Fancy stuff like Compiz looks
> >> >> good but it's like pr0n, elicits emotional responses but totally
> >> >> lacking in substance. I usually disables COmpiz on my work notebook.
> >> >> Too distracting....
> >> >>
> >> >> Eric
> >> >>
> >> >> On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 7:28 AM, Ghodmode <ghodmode at ghodmode.com>
> wrote:
> >> >>> On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 8:34 PM, Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte
> >> >>> <msiantuxlover at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> RH and Novell each has a different approach to business. RH
> positions
> >> >>>> itself as an Open Source Software vendor hile Novell is a
> >> >>>> mixed-source
> >> >>>> organisation. Novell does a lot of closed-source things as well.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> I noticed in an article about Wayland at Phoronix
> >> >>>
> >> >>> (
> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=xorg_wayland&num=1)
> that
> >> >>> the Wayland project was started by someone from RedHat.  It's not a
> >> >>> RedHat
> >> >>> project, but it still wouldn't surprise me if RedHat took a renewed
> >> >>> interest
> >> >>> in Wayland after Canonical.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Does this really matter to enterprise users, though?  They wouldn't
> >> >>> care
> >> >>> about GL-based features on a file / email / web / database server,
> >> >>> would
> >> >>> they?
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> While it would have been awesome for a marriage between the 2, it
> >> >>>> will
> >> >>>> be legally impossible. The merging of No. 1 and No. 2 Enterprise
> >> >>>> Linux
> >> >>>> vendors will definitely be stopped by the Department of Justice in
> >> >>>> the
> >> >>>> US. So a merger will definitely be out of the question.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Novell has close working relationships with Microsoft, IBM, VMWare
> >> >>>> and
> >> >>>> SAP. In fact there is a specially version of SLES for SAP if
> cutomers
> >> >>>> would like to deploy Linux with SAP.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Wayland seems to be an interesting project.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> There are already some suggestions in the ML that perhaps a Wayland
> >> >>>> option should be made available in openSUSE 12 or SLED/SLES 12. So
> >> >>>> far
> >> >>>> it's still only talk but let us see how things go.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Eric
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 3:52 AM, starconsultancy
> >> >>>> <f.van.der.star at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>>> > Hi,
> >> >>>> >
> >> >>>> > In reaction of the last article I am wondering why RH and Novell
> >> >>>> > are not
> >> >>>> > sticking
> >> >>>> > together.
> >> >>>> >
> >> >>>> > Nowadays a lot of software-giants are married or engaged to each
> >> >>>> > other.
> >> >>>> >
> >> >>>> > For instance: Oracle with MS; Navision with MS and there is
> >> >>>> > probably
> >> >>>> > soon
> >> >>>> > a party with SAP and MS.
> >> >>>> >
> >> >>>> > In that grass-root thing there are fortunately a lot of
> >> >>>> > grass-hoppers.
> >> >>>> > Mostly consumers.
> >> >>>> >
> >> >>>> > As far as Wayland (or Neverland or whatever Land) I have no clue.
> >> >>>> > All
> >> >>>> > that I
> >> >>>> > know that
> >> >>>> > the "new" Gnome-Desktop has been postponed for many times. And it
> >> >>>> > seems
> >> >>>> > that
> >> >>>> > this
> >> >>>> > application is not so convenient for the Mobile phones. Hence
> >> >>>> > perhaps
> >> >>>> > the
> >> >>>> > decision of
> >> >>>> > Canonical to change to this new Land.
> >> >>>> >
> >> >>>> > Last but not least also Canonical and Novell have engagements
> with
> >> >>>> > MS.
> >> >>>> > It is
> >> >>>> > inevitable
> >> >>>> > in order to survive. Faits accomplis as the French Linux-users
> >> >>>> > would
> >> >>>> > say.
> >> >>>> >
> >> >>>> > Hopefully RH will cool his head and Novell will have a nice topic
> >> >>>> > for
> >> >>>> > the
> >> >>>> > future in its "novel".
> >> >>>> >
> >> >>>> > Kind regards
> >> >>>> >
> >> >>>> > Frans
> >> >>>> >
> >> >>>> > On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 10:58 AM, Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte
> >> >>>> > <msiantuxlover at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>>> >>
> >> >>>> >> The Enterprise Linux market is owned by RH and Novell. While
> >> >>>> >> Ubuntu
> >> >>>> >> has a lot of traction among Linux users, it is still essentially
> >> >>>> >> still
> >> >>>> >> more well known as a casual OS. So for it to change to Wayland,
> >> >>>> >> they
> >> >>>> >> will have lesser baggage to content with.
> >> >>>> >>
> >> >>>> >> Until there is a brick and mortar office presence and suits
> >> >>>> >> associated
> >> >>>> >> to it, sadly Ubuntu while an excellent distro will still be more
> >> >>>> >> of a
> >> >>>> >> grass-root thing.
> >> >>>> >>
> >> >>>> >> Eric
> >> >>>> >>
> >> >>>> >> On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 11:21 AM, najmi.zabidi at gmail.com
> >> >>>> >> <najmi.zabidi at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>>> >> > Kinda like the simple UI that it has.
> >> >>>> >> > Also if look at the few other screenshots, it will give more
> >> >>>> >> > appeal
> >> >>>> >> > to
> >> >>>> >> > the Mac OS X users for transition. (usually the other way
> >> >>>> >> > around, for
> >> >>>> >> > extra machine).
> >> >>>> >> >
> >> >>>> >> > On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 11:12 AM, Slaya Chronicles - Geeko
> >> >>>> >> > Acolyte
> >> >>>> >> > <msiantuxlover at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>>> >> >> No necessary a bad thing. X.org/X11 has had its place in the
> >> >>>> >> >> sun. I
> >> >>>> >> >> dont have good visibility on Waylan'd but a change will be
> >> >>>> >> >> good.
> >> >>>> >> >>
> >> >>>> >> >> Unsure that how existing Enterprise Linux users will react to
> >> >>>> >> >> this.
> >> >>>> >> >>
> >> >>>> >> >> Eric
> >> >>>> >> >>
> >> >>>> >> >> On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 6:37 PM, najmi.zabidi at gmail.com
> >> >>>> >> >> <najmi.zabidi at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>>> >> >>> Hi,
> >> >>>> >> >>>
> >> >>>> >> >>> http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/551
> >> >>>> >> >>>
> >> >>>> >> >>>
> >> >>>> >> >>>
> http://www.cio.com.au/article/367050/ubuntu_risky_leap_unity_wayland/
> >> >>>> >> >>>
> >> >>>> >> >>>
> >> >>>> >> >>>
> >> >>>> >> >>>
> http://www.itworld.com/open-source/128540/ubuntus-unity-interface-what-expect
> >> >>>> >> >>>
> >> >>>> >> >>> Do you think you'll stick to use Gnome or Unity instead for
> >> >>>> >> >>> default?
> >> >>>> >> >>>
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