[ubuntu-my] Ubuntu-my Digest, Vol 27, Issue 42

[ApOgEE]

Why don't we think the other way around? Really wanna make money? Lets make
some... but not using Ubuntu Community name. Wake up friends!!

I've seen people making tons of money out of open source. And they are not
using community name. They are using their own brand while taking advantage
of what open source community are here to help them. And if we do care much
about Ubuntu community and the people who volunteer to work for it, why not
just be the brand or company who sponsor venue, meal, hardware, and other
stuff which community might need in doing such events or project that will
make both party happy. One party get the money/exposure and the other party
get what they are up to... both will achieve their goals. And everyone are
happy. How about that?

Growing a community without treasury department or any company as
representative for community is not an impossible thing. We have already
done that and as we can see now... we are growing bigger...

I'm really happy to see that more and more people are coming. Welcome to
Ubuntu community. There are lots of other things that we need help from all
of you instead of money. Such as:

1. Wiki documentation translator and writer.
2. Help on answering questions in forum, IRC & mailing list
3. Ubuntu Malay Localization
4. Bug squad
5. MOTU
6. Web development
7. Organising yearly activity to get more hands on helping those above,
knowledge sharing, public awareness, and some fun

Are you ready? Let's rock!!


2009/3/24 Donald P Kong <dpkong at pc.jaring.my>

> maybe some examples will be easier to comprehend?
>
> Ubuntu community activities should be treated like a local gathering at
> the mamak stall/coffeeshop or whatever place you hang out with your
> friends. you drive or take whatever transportation to get there and you
> do not try to claim "travelling expenses" from your group of friends.
> you usually pay for your own food/drinks and should not expect someone
> will pay unless you were invited there for free food because someone won
> a lottery.
>
> and most of all, you do not try to make a money from being at the
> gathering.
>
> sadly, malaysians in general look at community events in a very
> different way.
>
>
>
> On Tue, 2009-03-24 at 15:27 +0800, zarul shahrin wrote:
> > I think the main problem we are having here is that some of the
> > members don't bother to do a little bit of research before replying to
> > the mailing list.
> >
>
> ..deleted
>
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 2:06 PM, Zulkifli Abdullah
> > <zul.malc at gmail.com> wrote:
> >         Salam...
> >
> >         Kita perlu kaji secara mendalam, dan berbincang secara
> >         objektif dan
> >         berdiri diatas bumi nyata untuk buat setiap keputusan yang
> >         membabitkan
> >         komuniti. Ini bukan tanggungjawab kita terhadap kredibiliti
> >         dan
> >         pendapat kita saja tapi juga tanggungjawab terhadap
> >         keseluruhan
> >         komuniti. Pertamanya, Apa itu komuniti Ubuntu?
> >
> >         Komuniti Ubuntu ialah setiap orang yang menggunakan ubuntu.
> >
> >         Kerana itu, setiap keputusan kita hari ini akan memberikan
> >         efek segera
> >         dan jangka panjang kepada pembangunan komuniti.
> >
> >         Persoalan sekarang, adakah komuniti wajar menjana
> >         pendapatannya
> >         sendiri? Ada 2 situasi yang aku rasa perlu difahami. Pertama,
> >         adakah
> >         culture di malaysia ni - company (samada besar atau kecil)
> >         suka
> >         sponsor aktiviti yang sesuatu komuniti lakukan? Ada ya dan ada
> >         tidak.
> >         Jika aktiviti melibatkan konsert, lagha bla-bla, Ya, ramai la
> >         company
> >         nak sponsor. Tapi kalau komuniti ubuntu nak buat aktiviti?
> >         Mungkin
> >         otai-otai kita ada jawapan sendiri. Kita perlukan kepastian.
> >         Ini ialah
> >         cara kita urus satu organisasi dan bukannya pertandingan
> >         sabung laga
> >         ayam.
> >
> >         Kedua - Kalau komuniti ada tabung sendiri (kewangan sendiri),
> >         aku rasa
> >         tidak ada apa yang akan rugi. Aku rasa NPO pun ada tabung
> >         sendiri
> >         sedangkan mereka NPO. Aku sebenarnya xleh fikir macam mana
> >         satu
> >         organisasi hanya akan berfikir pasal kewangan HANYA setiap
> >         kali ingin
> >         lakukan aktiviti. Punyalah tak organize...Hmm tu dalam fikiran
> >         aku.
> >
> >         Jadi apa yang perlu difikirkan;
> >         1)Apa yang baik dan apa yang buruk kalau kita kekalkan
> >         komuniti
> >         sebagai badan yang xde tabung kewangan lansung.
> >         2)Apa yang baik dan apa yang buruk kalau kita ubah komuniti
> >         kepada
> >         badan yang ada tabung kewangan dan boleh menjana pendapatan.
> >
> >         Dalam fikiran korang mesti dah ada jawapan. Tapi aku rayu
> >         supaya bagi
> >         sedikit masa untuk fikirkan lagi keputusan dalam kepala korang
> >         tuh.
> >         Macam yang aku cakap, keputusan kita bertanggungjawab keatas
> >         semua
> >         ahli komuniti ubuntu malaysia.
> >
> >         Wassalam.
>
>
>
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