[ubuntu-my] Ubuntu-my Digest, Vol 27, Issue 42

[Harisfazillah Jamel]

2009/3/24 zarul shahrin <zarulshahrin at gmail.com>:
> I think the main problem we are having here is that some of the members
> don't bother to do a little bit of research before replying to the mailing
> list.
>

Zarul. Most of them are new. Maybe, maybe it's may take there time to
undersand all our discussion but just to ignore other people view and
opinions it's not the spirit of the CoC itself.

> I would like to suggest that our members first read the CoC and then Google
> for issues related to loco team sponsorship etc. Even if you guys think that
> is something troublesome, atleast try to read the posts made earlier by our
> other members on the related topics. That will save us some time trying to
> explain the same thing all over again... Nodody is making decision for fun
> or as they wish. We have RULES to follow. That's what we are doing,
> following the rules. I have been saying this gazillion of times. Ubuntu is
> not our own brand for us to do anything as we like.
>

For me it's simple. If the Ubuntu Community don't want to used and
involved with any profit activities that benefit the community interm
of monetary and then we should discuss how we can help the community
to gain "money benefit" that will help the community to growth.

We have many ideas that popup during discussions and meetups. Creating
a company is one of them. Sad to say, to form an organization in
Malaysia is not easy. Ton of paperworks.

Should we or should we not?


>
> Zarul
>
> p/s: I think will stop entertaining such question. If you guys don't bother
> to help yourself or take the initiative to do a little bit of research
> first. There is no reason for me to spend so much time explaining the same
> thing all over again like an idiot. Sorry for being harsh,  this is my style
> and don't get offended with it.. I am the kind of person who don't like the
> idea of spoon-feeding or repeating my words.....
>
> On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 2:06 PM, Zulkifli Abdullah <zul.malc at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> Salam...
>>
>> Kita perlu kaji secara mendalam, dan berbincang secara objektif dan
>> berdiri diatas bumi nyata untuk buat setiap keputusan yang membabitkan
>> komuniti. Ini bukan tanggungjawab kita terhadap kredibiliti dan
>> pendapat kita saja tapi juga tanggungjawab terhadap keseluruhan
>> komuniti. Pertamanya, Apa itu komuniti Ubuntu?
>>
>> Komuniti Ubuntu ialah setiap orang yang menggunakan ubuntu.
>>
>> Kerana itu, setiap keputusan kita hari ini akan memberikan efek segera
>> dan jangka panjang kepada pembangunan komuniti.
>>
>> Persoalan sekarang, adakah komuniti wajar menjana pendapatannya
>> sendiri? Ada 2 situasi yang aku rasa perlu difahami. Pertama, adakah
>> culture di malaysia ni - company (samada besar atau kecil) suka
>> sponsor aktiviti yang sesuatu komuniti lakukan? Ada ya dan ada tidak.
>> Jika aktiviti melibatkan konsert, lagha bla-bla, Ya, ramai la company
>> nak sponsor. Tapi kalau komuniti ubuntu nak buat aktiviti? Mungkin
>> otai-otai kita ada jawapan sendiri. Kita perlukan kepastian. Ini ialah
>> cara kita urus satu organisasi dan bukannya pertandingan sabung laga
>> ayam.
>>
>> Kedua - Kalau komuniti ada tabung sendiri (kewangan sendiri), aku rasa
>> tidak ada apa yang akan rugi. Aku rasa NPO pun ada tabung sendiri
>> sedangkan mereka NPO. Aku sebenarnya xleh fikir macam mana satu
>> organisasi hanya akan berfikir pasal kewangan HANYA setiap kali ingin
>> lakukan aktiviti. Punyalah tak organize...Hmm tu dalam fikiran aku.
>>
>> Jadi apa yang perlu difikirkan;
>> 1)Apa yang baik dan apa yang buruk kalau kita kekalkan komuniti
>> sebagai badan yang xde tabung kewangan lansung.
>> 2)Apa yang baik dan apa yang buruk kalau kita ubah komuniti kepada
>> badan yang ada tabung kewangan dan boleh menjana pendapatan.
>>
>> Dalam fikiran korang mesti dah ada jawapan. Tapi aku rayu supaya bagi
>> sedikit masa untuk fikirkan lagi keputusan dalam kepala korang tuh.
>> Macam yang aku cakap, keputusan kita bertanggungjawab keatas semua
>> ahli komuniti ubuntu malaysia.
>>
>> Wassalam.
>>
>>