[ubuntu-my] Fwd: Re: Malay localization upstreaming

Khairul Aizat Kamarudzzaman fenris at ubuntu.com
Thu Jul 23 09:49:34 BST 2009

Btw i already chat with asac on the channel, here are some of his words.... 

[16:30] <asac> yes. i should do that asasp
[16:31] <e-jat> but for us .. we still need to finish the xulrunner translation 
1st right ?:(
[16:32] <asac> thats the case in any case
[16:32] <asac> e-jat: also on top of my todo list is to enable all launchpad 
translations during development cycle
[16:32] <asac> so that teams can actually see the progress they are making (or 
[16:33] <asac> i think that will help a lot. we still need a process then how 
to figure which translations will make the cut and which wont (for the final 
[16:34] <asac> the other topic is exporting for upstream. thats still on my 
list. i talked to gandi and i finally understand how the hg upstream source 
trees for translations are layouted
[16:34] <asac> its really a bit tricky.

So .. i think .. this is our task to make it success . Documentation & 
Translation Team should take note about this. 


----------  Forwarded Message  ----------

Subject: Re: Malay localization upstreaming
Date: Thursday 23 July 2009
From: Gen Kanai <gen at mozilla.com>
To: Alexander Sack <asac at canonical.com>

On Jul 7, 2009, at 6:05 PM, Gen Kanai wrote:

> On Jun 2, 2009, at 11:03 PM, Alexander Sack wrote:
>> On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 04:54:26PM +0200, Axel Hecht wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>> we didn't actually follow up here, sorry.
>>> When gandalf said "not easy", that wasn't a policy thing or  
>>> anything.
>>> The problem here is that launchpad dumps a flock of files on export
>>> which neither gandalf nor I managed to understand. I never checked
>>> myself in detail, but from what I recall the file names probably  
>>> match,
>>> but the directory structure feels random. As in, it's neither our
>>> source, nor is it the structure of a langpack. So when faced with an
>>> export of launchpad, we don't have an algorithmic approach for  
>>> importing
>>> that other than doing pattern matching based on filenames. Which  
>>> doesn't
>>> make either me nor gandalf feel good about that process.
>> Thanks for your follow up. The idea of this discussion was about how
>> to improve the situation. In general, launchpad exports .po files,  
>> for
>> which we have a tool to convert to "ubuntu-stylish" (chrome) language
>> packs. I wondered if there are any policies wrt to how the .dtd and
>> .properties files are layouted (empty lines, comments, etc.).
>> Anyway, we had a few translation sessions during UDS last week and I
>> think i know what is needed to improve the situation for launchpad
>> translators wrt upstream contribution and will work on providing a
>> transformer for translation teams with which they can a) create a  
>> tree
>> structure similar to what is in hg and b) patch an existing hg tree
>> checkout with just the changes done in launchpad. Covering both cases
>> would probably allow launchpad translators to either run their own
>> upstream team, or just contributing improvements back if there is an
>> upstream team.
>> Will keep you posted as we move forward.
> Hi Alexander,
> We've been busy with the 3.5 release, but now that it is behind us,  
> we wanted to see if there has been any movement on this effort.
> If there is anything we can do to help, please just ask.
> Also, if we can figure out which locales besides Malay and Asturian  
> (?) are possible for upstreaming (i.e. locales that Ubuntu has that  
> Mozilla does not) that would be helpful as well.
> Thank you,
> Gen


Sorry to bother you again on this but was wondering if you had a  
chance to take a look at this issue that was raised in May.  We're  
looking to expand the number of locales for the next version of  
Firefox and getting those locales that are present in Ubuntu but not  
in Firefox would be very helpful.

Please let us know if there is anything we can do.


Gen Kanai


Khairul Aizat Kamarudzzaman (fenris)
Ubuntu-my Loco Member


MyGOSSCON 2009 Call for Papers

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