[ubuntu-my] difficulty spreading Ubuntu or any Linux

Wed Jan 30 04:57:02 GMT 2008

Don't bother if they are reluctant to use Linux or decided to use windows...
Anyway, it's not fair if they don't know anything about linux before
deciding to use what... they have to know the choices available before
making that decision...

Just make sure they know what they can have with Ubuntu Linux... Else, up to
them.

On Jan 30, 2008 10:02 AM, Ruhaizad Daud <drizad at gmail.com> wrote:

> This long email reply should be like a forum. Don't you think?
> But if it is, I don't think the issue will ever ends...
>
> "In the beginning was the command line"
>
> hehehe...
>
> On Jan 30, 2008 8:51 AM, Low Lee Leong <leonglow at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > Linux is about freedom.  Why should we bother if other still want to use
> > windows and reluctant to use Linux? People have rights to decide what
> they
> > like.  As Linus once said, Linux is not to replace Windows, it just a
> choice
> > of another OS.  We all converge to this mailing list because we like
> linux
> > and would like to bond together.  There are millions outside there who
> just
> > want the computer get their job done and don't bother what OS it is.
> As
> > long as it done the job the it is fine.  They have other thing to
> pursure
> > such as sales figure, feed the kids, pick up kids from school.
> >  Life is about enjoying and respecting others......
> >
> >
> >
> > ApOgEE <jerungkun at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > i've been using windows for ages... since win 3.11 until now and I can't
> see
> > any point that can say Ubuntu is hard to understand... I did show and
> > provide Ubuntu to a total End User that use PC for just browsing
> internet,
> > listening to music and videos... all I do is load their PC with Ubuntu +
> > tools they'll need and then a little instruction by phone...
> >
> > I think its just common sense... I told these PC users, PC is same like
> > their handphone... have anyone been 'sticked' with any phone OS? can't
> use
> > any phone without the same OS? Everytime they buy or borrow new or
> other's
> > handphone, they can still use the phone to make call, SMS, MMS or what
> so
> > ever they want. Maybe some phone have lack features but still, any
> features
> > that is there will always be there... They just have to know how to use
> it
> > with their common sense. Problem will always occur but they will always
> have
> > us to show them the right path on doing things right on something we
> already
> > know...
> >
> > Here's how I encourage these people to learn more on their tools... I
> told
> > them what exciting things which is within their interest (as I get to
> know
> > them better) they can do with their machine. sometimes, that can also
> been
> > achieved in ms windows but with some tricks... i won't tell the windows
> way
> > but i'll tell em the Ubuntu way which sometimes is a lot quicker and
> > easier... when they know that, i'll just tell others among their friends
> > with the same interest, what this user can do with his tools and he/she
> will
> > be proud of themselves and their tools and start to explore more...
> >
> > The only type that I can't do anything about it is those who don't like
> > computer at all... they use computer as they are forced to use it. they
> > don't even enjoy it. they see the keyboard and mouse like waiting to eat
> > them... believe it or not there are people out there who are afraid of
> > computers... even the ATM machine make em frightened to death... hahaha
> >
> > Why people are reluctant to try linux? because years ago, linux have
> been
> > conquered by those weirdos who wanna call themselves so called
> 'Elite'...
> > they don't enjoy helping others and all these newbies can get while
> dealing
> > with them is words like RTFM and so on... Don't blame them, we have to
> > change that among ourselves. It's nothing wrong of being humble and
> helpful.
> > we will get the benefit soon. That's what Ubuntu is built for... isn't
> it?
> > 'Humanity to others'...
> >
> >
> > On Jan 29, 2008 12:05 AM, Andy Goh (hantu) <hantuvii at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Another thing is that when they heard "Linux", they think "bunch of
> > commands" - They don't know we can do point-n-click too! :)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Jan 29, 2008 2:38 AM, Donald P Kong <dpkong at pc.jaring.my> wrote:
> > >
> > > > my view is that most people are just too reluctant to try something
> new
> > > > or different. most young computer users (students especially) grew
> up in
> > > > the age of Windows. hardly any know DOS even.
> > > >
> > > > presented with a Ubuntu desktop, they are lost. they look for the
> Start
> > > > button or Control Panel or Nero or IE or MS Office..
> > > >
> > > > the difficulty is not to make Linux easier to use but to change the
> > > > mindset of users. that is the challenge we face to promote a better
> > > > operating system.
> > > >
> > > > as history has shown (think Betamax vs VHS), just being better does
> not
> > > > make it the standard.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, 2008-01-28 at 10:37 +0000,
> ubuntu-my-request at lists.ubuntu.com
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > Message: 5
> > > > > Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 18:37:15 +0800
> > > > > From: ApOgEE <jerungkun at gmail.com>
> > > > > Subject: Re: [ubuntu-my] Update from Mid Valley
> > > > > To: "Malaysian Team Mailing List" <ubuntu-my at lists.ubuntu.com>
> > > > > Message-ID:
> > > > >       <1e5d839e0801280237g45b9203ev390aa6e5785fe454 at mail.gmail.com
> >
> > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> > > > >
> > > > > Don't wait!! You have to tell them dude... the simplest starting
> word
> > is
> > > > > "they are out dated!!!"... then, they might get the idea... if
> they
> > are
> > > > > using an old PC with winxp or even win98... tell them the fact
> that
> > this is
> > > > > 2008, about ten years ago, people do use win98... winxp is about
> 2002
> > or
> > > > > something, I didn't remember... that was about 8 years ago
> dude!!...
> > then
> > > > > just tell them, "you are totally out dated dude!!!..." so, if they
> > want to
> > > > > upgrade their PC, tell em, there is choice to get updated while
> using
> > the
> > > > > old school PC... just install Ubuntu... then they'll get the
> idea...
> > even if
> > > > > they are upgrading their PC and try to get Vista, tell em the
> > difference of
> > > > > earth and sky about Ubuntu and Vista...
> > > > >
> > > > > if they ask why? Feel free to welcome and advice them with Ubuntu
> and
> > Open
> > > > > Source... I'm pretty sure, if they are good thinker, they won't
> think
> > twice
> > > > > about having the great OS for FREE...
> > > > >
> > > > > Anyway, that was what I told my friends already... and then,
> either
> > they
> > > > > will stick with their outdated PC and shut their mouth up or they
> will
> > buy
> > > > > me a teh tarik to help them convert their machine with the great
> > Ubuntu...
> > > > > wakakakaka...
> > > > >
> > > > > Come on dude!! you can do it!! Good Luck!!
> > > >
> > > >
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