[Bug 11334] Re: MASTER Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste

[pyrates]

This here is the problem with linux on the desktop.  You have
programmers like Slated here thinking inside a very narrow definition.
He wants X11, now Xorg, to be modular at the cost of convenience.  He's
willing to put up with inadequacies like this just so it remains in his
narrow definition of what it should do.  And your trying to connect the
clipboard with security doesn't jive.  Linux I find on the servers I run
gets updated just as often as windows does.

I find the copy on select and middle click paste functionality
abhorring.  It is so error prone that only those who specifically know
what they are doing, programmers and advanced linux users, can use it.
And the only reason why it was implemented the way it was, was because
they didn't want to change the terminal commands ctrl+c and they wanted
it to work in a terminal first and that should be how it should work
elsewhere.  And the people who could implement it refuse to because they
don't like it.  They instead in their arrogant way, assume programmers
who are use to the method that windows and mac os x do to work with the
clipboard, think they will change their ways just to create their app on
linux.  Seeing the number of applications that don't comply with this
goes to show that those programmers of windows and mac os x refuse to
give in.  That they want the clipboard to be just like it is on windows
and mac os x.  Telling them they need to add low level access just to
deal with the clipboard on linux is stupid.  All they should need to
worry about is copying the data to the clipboard.  The clipboard should
worry about keeping this data.  Not the app that the data was copied
from.

And besides, X11 and Xorg is ancient.  It was dropped by google on
android.  Ubuntu and Fedora are moving away from it to wayland.  it's
just a mess of patches of kludge fixes that it's beyond saving.  You
can't implement anything modern on it cleanly without it ending up being
a kludge.  No one really uses the remote network capabilities of it
anymore.  It being modular has actually hurt it.  And besides, it's not
the 1980's anymore.  We got computers that are way more powerful then
that with a lot more memory that can easily deal with a persistent
clipboard.  So it's time to get away from that.  It's what end users are
use to.  Don't be afraid to use the resources you are given.

And the temporary solution of running a program to fix the clipboard is
a problem in itself.  You need to install it and most of the time they
only support text.  What about video, audio and other types of binary
data?  This was known about in 1993 and in a couple years it will be 20
years since the problem was known about.  To say open source moves
rapidly isn't always true when it comes to features end users want and
programmers don't care to implement because no one is paying them money
to implement it.

Ubuntu has done a good job of making things easier but these fundamental
features need to be their.  That's how you'll become mainstream.  I kept
hearing every year from 2000-2010 that this year was gonna be the year
of linux on the desktop.  Well it hasn't happened.  And the typical back
pedal response was that we don't want to become mainstream then.  So
instead of fixing the problem, we'll just come up with another excuse
not to fix it.  Great job guys.

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Title:
  MASTER Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the
  paste