<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <HTML> <HEAD> <META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"> <META NAME="Generator" CONTENT="MS Exchange Server version 6.5.7638.1"> <TITLE>is that your final decision about removing the game "*ver god"</TITLE> </HEAD> <BODY>  i sent you email asking for removing game called "*ver god" and discuss it with some one from your team call Stefan Ebner and here is the discussion that gone between us > -----Original Message----- > From: Stefan Ebner on behalf of Stefan Ebner > Sent: Sun 6/28/2009 12:31 AM > To: vido > Cc: ubuntu-motu@lists.ubuntu.com > Subject: Re: remove this game your repository it calls "*ver god" > > vido wrote: > > > > i ask you to remove this game from your repository it calls "*ver god" > > the package name calls "*ver god " but when you enter the game you > > will find > > the word "*ver god" written like his "*ver God". > > and the word god can go with lot of  meanings  but when we are talking > > about > > the word God > > it can only mean our God the creator of every thing and the God of > > every thing > > so how come to any thing  can be over our God > > and the name of the package  also not appropriate > > you may look to this situation as a freedom of speech > > but this point of view is wrong > > coz if we think that author can do that coz he didn`t Believe in God > > then i`m Believer > > so i can do a game insult bozh in it or musslims can do it to christian > > or christian  can do it to jews > > and then what? > > every team insult the name of the other team  God > > is that your idea of Peace between humans > > man that`s not right i again ask  you  to remove it from your > repository > > its just a stupid game and it will cost you nothing to remove it > > if you want Depends freedom of speech and expressing views freely do > > it with > > respect to other People Beliefs , Religions and Feelings > > that is all for now > > > > > > > > Hi! > > You know that I don't believe in god as we spoke about it on freenode. > First I have to say that I don't have anything against any religion > (except the violent ones). > > I don't know in what religion you participate (christianity?) but here > are my thoughts: > > In Christianity the first commandment is: "I am the Lord your God", the > German version > would be something like: "Don't use the name of god carelessly". > This would be the point you are complaining about *but* we follow the > rules of the > state and not the rules of the ten commandments. My government only says > that you are not allowed to insult other religions. Speaking about or > using the word > god is not an insult, but something like "Your God s*cks" ... > This is not the case so I think removing this game (I tested it and my > personal opinion is > that I don't like it as you said it's crap which is rude anyways) is > censorship and I'm > totally against it. > > Stefan > english is not my 1st lang > so > i didn`t understand what you ment by > I'm trying to clarify. > > > """god is not an insult, but something like "Your God s*cks""" > I wrote: "speaking about or using the word god is not an insult, but something like "Your God s*cks" which means that since we are following the rules of the state it is not a crime or something bad to use the word "God" like in this game. If the name of the game would be "F*ck God" I'm sure the situation would be different. > > and  can i under stand from > > """This is not the case so I think removing this game (I tested it and my > personal opinion is > that I don't like it as you said it's crap which is rude anyways) is > censorship and I'm > totally against it..""" > > that you agree to delete this game from your repository > *No!* You wrote that this game is crap so I tried it out and as I said I'm of the opinion that I don't like it but this is *not a reason* to remove it from the archive. I said: Removing this game is censorship and I'm totally against it -> I'm totally *against **removing* this game. > > > i`m waiting your respond > PS.: It seems you just replied to me. For the future please CC  the motu mailings list so i want to know is that council board decision and if its not i want to know the council board decision in this Issue and i have to end my mail by some points that there is just one God there are People how don`t believe in him and there are people how Differed on how to identify him every team has not to offend other teams Beliefs and when they want to debate on which team is right they have to do it  in a good and polite  way with out fighting or insulting each other when God is mean to me huge thing and no one could be over him don`t do a game  and right in it in a big font "*ver God" coz it is an offend to my  Beliefs so if we consider that the author of the game don`t believe in God why did he mention him or that there is how could be over him in this game if you don`t believe in god and you don`t believe that he exists you don`t mention that there is how can be over him in a game  unless you want to offend People how believe in that coz if you believe in him you will not going to say "*ver God" my point of view about censorship censorship is like police to prevent the crime before its going to be done Imagine some  people fight each others  some one try to Violate right of  the other and that other try take his rights from that one how violated legaly  so he went to police he didn`t find any he  tried to find police and he didn`t find police and he tried and tried an some how the police is Disappeared  and he couldn`t to take his right by law  then he decide that  going to fight him back trying to defend his rights then there will be people how will be killed Injured the same is with  censorship censorship is not wrong using  censorship to Suppress people saying that is offend some thing and it`s not that is what i call it wrong,lieing, deceiving and exploitation authorities of some charge in bad way that is it for now i`m waiting a respond </BODY> </HTML>