Please think before you send bugs to Debian

Daniel Holbach daniel.holbach at
Thu Feb 7 09:54:28 GMT 2008

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Hello Sarah,

I did not mean to tell you off, but express my confidence in all the
members of the MOTU team.

Sarah Hobbs schrieb:
> Come now.  I was merely raising the question as to whether a note in the
> wiki (which a lot of people (especially established MOTU's) don't read,
> as it's still being rearranged, is the most useful way of conveying this
> information.
> That being said, the reason why I didn't suggest something else was that
> I hadn't come up with a better way of conveying the information to
> everyone.  Clearly, not eloquently enough.   I wasn't suggesting
> throwing people out, etc - if I *was* suggesting such a thing, then I
> would have come out and said that.
> Take it, or leave it, as you wish - but please don't jump down my throat
> for something that I did not say.  That is not fair.

"We apparently have various people who don't think before sending
changes" is the sentence that irked me. For my taste it draws a much too
negative picture of the team.

I agree that this is an important issue and that we should try to come
up with solutions to fix it.

Here's what I just did:
 - asked Alexander Sack to add the list of ice* packages to
UbuntuPackagingChanges and add some explanation to it
 - referenced UbuntuPackagingChanges from more wiki pages
(UbuntuDevelopment/Merging, UbuntuDevelopment/KnowledgeBase, ,
 - wrote an small note on how to use submittodebian on
 - I'll also write James Westby to ask if he plans to add some words
about this to his "Working with Debian" session

What else could we improve?

Have a nice day,
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