NEW Packages process

[Stephan Hermann]

Hi,

On Wed, 16 Apr 2008 18:03:44 +0200
Soren Hansen <soren at ubuntu.com> wrote:

> On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 04:37:00PM +0200, Stephan Hermann wrote:
> >>>  * for NEW packages, there is obviously no LP entry yet.
> >> Actually there is, just after the package hits NEW. And you can at
> >> that point subscribe to bug mail, so this shouldn't be an issue.
> > "Why should I care about a package which I want in Ubuntu? The MOTU
> > Team is responsible for Universe...so I'm out of the chain there"
> > 
> > This would be my thinking...if I'm not "chained" to Ubuntu.
> 
> This may surprise you: Not everyone's like that.

Well, after a decade dealing with different communities regarding OSS
projects, I would say, that 75% of all contributing people in our
business are "fire and forget" only 15% of all people contributing to
FOSS are staying and doing more work. I could be wrong, but that's my
view of the situation, and actually it was matching the situation since
it became a "hype" to push packages into Ubuntu, because it was much
faster then pushing them into Debian.

Why?

Because when I propose a patch to an upstream project, this patch is
not going through directly...the patch is being discussed...(actually
it's a review of the contents of the patch).
This discussion is, for many people, a burden, because other people are
judging your knowledge, your experience, your code. the judges are
people with even more knowledge or less, depends on the project.
After all that, many people will go, because their patch was not pushed
into this project, because of some very serious reasons and objections
from long standing contributors. Those contributors are not coming
back...

TBH, this behaviour is quiet known in every community which has nothing
to do with IT or software or whatever technical stuff is out there.

But actually that's my opinion...I saw it while REVU was evolving..and
I stand to my point, that most people are going away, after the goal is
reached, to get their package in our archives...after that the MOTU
team has the responsibility to take care about that package...

We need a barrier, to not let all software into Ubuntu, which will
only live for a couple of months.

Anyways...heading home now...

later,

\sh