Change in the Mentoring program

Christophe Sauthier christophe.sauthier at
Mon Nov 26 11:18:33 GMT 2007

I am sorry to intervene in a "MOTU" debate, but as a contributor, and
part of the mentoring program I think I have some opinions too...

On Nov 26, 2007 6:22 AM, Emmet Hikory <emmet.hikory at> wrote:
> On Nov 26, 2007 10:56 AM, Scott Kitterman wrote:
> > How many people that were involved in the program as mentees later became
> > MOTUs?  Are there any other than you?
I can understand your idea need of knowing the "exact" feedback for
the MOTU team... But I think that such a process is more likely to
give results on a long term... especially since the process to become
a MOTU is not time-limited ...

>     As I feel it's important to track metrics, as otherwise it's
> really not clear how any process changes affect things, I've reviewed
> the available information towards drafting some numbers, with the
> following results:
> Queue size of pending mentoring requests: unavailable from BZR
> People receiving mentoring that have become MOTU: 3
> People who have become MOTU since the Mentor program began: 18
> (including the 3 above)
> Number of current mentors: 17
> Number of current mentees: 29
> Date mentoring program started: 22 May 2007
Once again, I think that these metrics are a bit distorted since I am
not really sure that many people are able to become MOTU in less than
6 months (which is the lap of time since the mentoring program
What might be interesting would be to know the number of people who
has started to contribute since the beginning of the mentoring program
(22 May 2007) and that became MOTU, regarding they were part of the
program or not... and to see the evolution of that number in the next
months (since I repeat that this is a medium term benefit, from my
point of view).

>     Just as a note, in all cases where a Mentoree became MOTU there
> were previous uploads to the archive and previous communication with
> the community (prior to joining the mentoring program): I do not see
> any cases where a completely new person has requested Mentoring and
> become a MOTU.
I think that it was actually something needed to be part of the
mentoring process as a mentoree : to have starting to struggle a bit
BEFORE asking for a mentor... So it sounds reasonable for me...

>     Further, these numbers are from a quick review of the revision
> notes in BZR and glancing at the current revision: it may be (and
> likely is) that I have made mistakes, and there may be benefit to
> someone working through revision by revision to produce more accurate
> numbers (including such useful things as "Number of people requesting
> mentoring who have dropped from the program").
It is true that getting an idea on such statistics might be
interesting... But also the reasons of the failures...

All the Best,


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