Fwd: [Python-modules-team] libode ABI breackage

Scott Kitterman scott at kitterman.com
Tue Jun 26 12:58:56 BST 2007

Since libode is in Universe, this seemed worth passing on.  0.5 is what we 
have in the archives currently.  If 0.8 shows up somewhere we ought to be 
careful before we synch it/upload it.

Scott K

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Subject: [Python-modules-team] libode ABI breackage
Date: Tuesday 26 June 2007 07:29
From: "Miriam Ruiz" <little.miry at gmail.com>
To: debian-release at lists.debian.org, "Debian Games Team" 
<debian-devel-games at lists.debian.org>
Cc: Samuel Mimram <smimram at debian.org>, Yaroslav Halchenko 
<debian at onerussian.com>, "Marc Dequènes \(Duck\)" <Duck at duckcorp.org>, 
Michael Hanke <michael.hanke at gmail.com>, Experimental Psychology Maintainers 
<pkg-exppsy-maintainers at lists.alioth.debian.org>, Debian Python Modules Team 
<python-modules-team at lists.alioth.debian.org>


libODE (libode0-dev, libode0c2) is a free, industrial quality library for
simulating articulated rigid body dynamics - for example ground vehicles,
legged creatures, and moving objects in VR environments. It is fast,
flexible, robust and platform independent, with advanced joints, contact
with friction, and built-in collision detection. It is used by many games,
as the trends are to provide more realistic behaviour of the engines every
time. While version 0.5 has been in the archive for a while, most of the
newer games demand version 0.8.

There is an ABI breakage between de 0.5 and the 0.8 release of libode. In
fact, there are numerous reports of incompatibilities between versions in
the forums, and the upstream developers apparently don't care at all about
SONAMEs ( [image: [WWW]]
Upstream are using the version number as a SONAME, so it seems they
no clue on what they're doing. Even though 0.5 and 0.8 are clearly not
ABI-compatible (segfault), the major number of the SONAME seems to be the
Trying to upgrade to 0.8, and not being fully aware of the problem. we
uploaded a newer version of libode0c2, based on the 0.8 version of ode. It
seems to have been a bad idea, since programs depending on it seem to break.
Thus, we wanted to ask what would be the best way to face this transition.
We should also contact the maintainers of the packages that depend on this
to try to make the transition as easy as possible for everyone.

Packages that depend on libode0c2: python-pyode, xmoto,  python-soya,
python-pyepl, and indirectly:

$apt-cache --recurse rdepends libode0c2 libode0c2 Reverse Depends:


   xmoto python-pyode libode0-dev xmoto python-soya python-pyode
   python-pyepl libode0-dev

python-pyepl Reverse Depends: python-soya Reverse Depends:


   slune python-soya-doc balazar

balazar Reverse Depends: python-soya-doc Reverse Depends:



slune Reverse Depends:


   python-soya junior-games-gl

junior-games-gl Reverse Depends:

How is the proper way to handle this?

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