More Teams, more MLs, more more more

Stephan Hermann sh at
Mon Nov 13 09:41:00 GMT 2006


On Sunday 12 November 2006 17:07, Reinhard Tartler wrote:
> Stephan Hermann <sh at> writes:
> > Why can't we go back to the "old" times of KISS (Keep it simple and
> > stupid) so that everybody can understand what we are doing and can help
> > us?
> We don't introduce burocracy because of having burocracy. We introduce
> it because we want to ensure some level of quality, transparency and
> efficiency.

Hmmm..what I meant is, when we will introduce a new bug triaging team for SRU, 
many people will join, most likely the same as in our normal motu bug 
triaging team. Therefore I think it could be better to join forces, and let 
the bug triaging team do their work, also in respect to SRU.

> > Administration is good, Structure is better...but the people love us
> > because of simplicity not being XYZ with strange rules.
> I don't think that allowing everyone to just upload every ubuntu-dev
> member to -updates would be a good idea. AFAIU everyone is allowed to
> upload to edgy-proposed, but we ask them to diskuss this on malone
> first. I think this is a good idea, but if you have a different opinion,
> please contribute it on this list!

I don't think, that everyone should be allowed to upload to something critical 
like -updates or -security. The workflow is quite ok.
I tried to make it clear in the paragraph on top of this mail.
I don't think it's good to split the bug triaging team and to form a new SRU 
bug triaging team.

E.g. for wine it's also quite difficult to determine which version of the 
package the bug reporters are talking about. And some of the bugs are quite 
reoccuring in future versions of wine. So, it is valuable that we see the bug 
reports about one software as a whole and not separately per version  
uploaded in release X.


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