Ubuntu 24.04 beta is happening this week - please check disk space on releases mirrors

Thu Apr 11 19:30:54 UTC 2024

Dear Thomas,

I don't know how long you've been "here" , but clearly not long enough. 
That was rude, I'm sorry but I have lost my patience.

Haw and you both stated that:

> the main Ubuntu site has *never* redirected to local mirrors for 
> downloads on ubuntu.com

Then these referrals - and tens, if not hundreds of thousands more - 
could have come from a parallel reality:

> "GET 
> /mirrors/pub/ubuntu-releases/20.04.1/ubuntu-20.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso 
> HTTP/1.1" 200 2770321150 
> "https://ubuntu.com/download/desktop/thank-you?version=20.04.1&architecture=amd64" 
> "Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10_14_6) AppleWebKit/605.1.15 
> (KHTML, like Gecko) " "-"
> 
> "GET 
> /mirrors/pub/ubuntu-releases/20.04.1/ubuntu-20.04.1-live-server-amd64.iso 
> HTTP/1.1" 200 188022527 
> "https://ubuntu.com/download/server/thank-you?version=20.04.1&architecture=amd64" 
> "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; rv:80.0) " "-"
> 
> "GET 
> /mirrors/pub/ubuntu-releases/20.04.1/ubuntu-20.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso 
> HTTP/1.1" 200 62422782 
> "https://ubuntu.com/download/desktop/thank-you?version=20.04.1&architecture=amd64" 
> "Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) 
> " "-"

This system has worked like this since at least 2015, I remember it 
clearly because that's why I registered my mirror as a release mirror in 
2018, and when I was "just" a user, that's exactly how I downloaded the 
image file a countless times ( I was auto redirected to a local mirror 
from the ubuntu download website.).

> A local ccTLD mirror is just that - a local country TLD mirror for the 
> data, and you point to that directly when downloading things. It would 
> be its own form of problems for releases.ubuntu.com to be geo-based 
> with routing rather than using the 'main' servers with mirrors.

If I don't have to I don't want to be a ccTLD mirror, Haw brought this 
up in response to the question of why there is no traffic on my mirror 
for iso's. Then I thought that if the problem cannot be solved any other 
way, I'd like to sign up as a mirror for hu.releses.ubuntu.com.
In addition, I reported the bug on github as Haw requested/suggested, to 
which there was no response, but I see that others have already reported 
this problem for almost six months with similar results. 
https://github.com/canonical/ubuntu.com/issues/13343

> I don't believe that there's any need to vent or complain to the entire 
> Mirrors list on this case.

I - and earlier futzel on github - have reported a problem that affects 
the whole https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+cdmirrors and iso distribution 
system, I'm really sorry for that...

What I don't understand is, what do you use/need the cd mirrors for 
then? (rhetorical question)

If the team don't wanna fix this problem, then don't fix it, but please 
let's not waste each other's time with childish nonsense and untrue 
statements.

 From my behalf I consider the "discussion" closed, and apologies for the 
useless noise to those who are on the list.

Cheers,

Peter

On 2024-04-10 17:12, Thomas Ward wrote:

> Peter,
> 
> It's my understanding after being here for so long that the main Ubuntu 
> site has *never* redirected to local mirrors for downloads on 
> ubuntu.com. My guess is that Canonical has not put any effort, etc. 
> into geolocating, then trying to determine which mirror link(s) are 
> alive and best.  Local mirror links are not part of the standard 
> rotation to my knowledge, and therefore your request to change this on 
> the main site may not be proper because of how the site is built.
> 
> A local ccTLD mirror is just that - a local country TLD mirror for the 
> data, and you point to that directly when downloading things. It would 
> be its own form of problems for releases.ubuntu.com to be geo-based 
> with routing rather than using the 'main' servers with mirrors.
> 
> While Haw is free to counter my statement, I don't believe that there's 
> any need to vent or complain to the entire Mirrors list on this case. 
> (which is how I saw your message below)
> 
> Thomas
> 
> From: ubuntu-mirrors <ubuntu-mirrors-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com> On 
> Behalf Of Quantum Mirror
> Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2024 11:00
> To: Haw Loeung <haw.loeung at canonical.com>
> Cc: Ubuntu mirrors <ubuntu-mirrors at lists.ubuntu.com>
> Subject: Re: Ubuntu 24.04 beta is happening this week - please check 
> disk space on releases mirrors
> 
> Dear Haw,
> 
> I'm very happy that you can pass this very important message from the 
> other team to the list, but you cannot pass them a message about the 
> distribution problem on releases.ubuntu.com  (website download 
> https://ubuntu.com/download/desktop ) , I have mentioned earlier.
> 
> I have even reported the problem 2 weeks ago on the github page, you 
> told me to do so, but they are not interested at all. 
> https://github.com/canonical/ubuntu.com/issues/13707
> 
> I have also asked you to register my mirror as a default releases 
> mirror to my country to bypass the problem temporarily, but nothing 
> happened...
> 
>> So to be clear, I want to sign up to be an official releases ccTLD 
>> mirror for Hungary.
>> 
>> http/s://quantum-mirror.hu/mirrors/pub/ubuntu-releases
>> 
>> rsync://quantum-mirror.hu/ubuntu-releases
> 
> I'm very glad that canonical has the resources to serve the downloads 
> itself but this is negligence, and this results in zero iso download 
> from my mirror and - I assume - from other country mirrors too.
> 
> So why should I mirror releases.ubuntu.com - even if it needs minimal 
> storage space - if you redirect all the traffic to the canonical 
> servers?
> 
> If this will not change in the near future, I will terminate the 
> mirroring of releases.ubuntu.com, because it makes no sense.
> 
> Have a nice day.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Peter
> 
> On 2024-04-10 05:51, Haw Loeung wrote:
> 
>> Hi All,
>> 
>> Ubuntu 24.04 beta is happening this week, which means an increase to 
>> the
>> size of the mirrored image set for releases.ubuntu.com. Release Team
>> checklist says to ask IS to remind mirror operators to check their 
>> free disk
>> space since the disk usage will be increasing.
>> 
>> The mirror set is currently 32GiB. The beta is expected to add under 
>> 8GiB
>> to the set, for a total of around 40GiB.
>> 
>> Passing this message on from the Ubuntu Release team.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Haw
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