[Bug 290552] Re: Pidgin should default to "Show system tray icon: On unread messages"

[Mackenzie Morgan]

> Without the Pidgin status icon, you must have the buddy list always
> opened, which is an obvious lack of ergonomy.

Or minimized...or shaded...

> Moreover, we are talking about Pidgin, but... what about any other IM?
> What about aMSN, Emesene, Gajim, Skype or Ekiga? Are all these programs
> wrong? Are all they need to be fixed in order to not having a status
> icon by default?

According to the HIG, yes, they're all behaving wrong.
> 
> IMHO, this is not the right direction. We can't expect to be able to
> replace the docking feature of all the present and future IM
> applications with only one applet (FUSA). IMHO, we must to stay, think
> and reconsider what's the FUSA status change usefulness. If the problem
> is only about icon duplicity, we propose to remove the FUSA status icon
> (see
> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pidgin/+bug/273220/comments/9
> for more details).

The trouble with removing it for *some* apps and not for others (as
suggested there) is that it'd create inconsistency.

> By the way: I'm using both Pidgin and aMSN at the same time. When I
> change my status using FUSA, aMSN is not affected. What IM applications
> are affected by the FUSA status change?

At the moment, Pidgin and Empathy.

Right now, I'm thinking the best situation would be:
1. FUSA doesn't control presence
2. Create a standard API for IM status
3. All IM applications implement the API
4. 1 panel applet for GNOME, 1 for KDE that changes status for all apps
that use the standard API.  And then that could have a "Buddy List
Visible" checkbox in its right-click menu

Would that be a good way to resolve keeping things out of the
notification area that aren't notifications while adding cross-app
consistency?

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Pidgin should default to "Show system tray icon:  On unread messages"
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/290552
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