<div>Im really liking the way this is headed. You two are doing great.</div> -Matthew Lye You can do anything you set your mind to when you have vision, determination, and and endless supply of expendable labor. <No tree's were harmed during this transmission. However, a great number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced> <div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 5:22 PM, Martin Owens <<a href="mailto:doctormo@gmail.com">doctormo@gmail.com</a>> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"> Hey Charles, <div class="im"> On Sun, 2009-10-11 at 21:34 -0400, Charles Profitt wrote: > I had a conversation on IRC the other night with doctormo about how > courses should be organized. I will give a brief example here so we can > gather our thoughts and discuss prior to the next IRC meeting. </div>Thanks for getting it written out as an example. I would not go for this particular model of laying things out because I believe it confuses a couple of target educational objectives. The Ubuntu Desktop strand/section is a good start, but it is really "How to use the Ubuntu Desktop", I would instead organise things like this: Using Ubuntu: - Ubuntu Desktop Course (Basics) - Introduction to the Desktop (Class) - Editing Documents (Class) - Modifying Photos (Class) - Writing Spreadsheets (Class) - Buying things Online (Class) - Chatting with Friends (IM) (Class) - Etc - Advanced Ubuntu Course - Command Line Basics - Etc - Ubuntu Server Course - Introduction to the Server (Class) - Web-servers (Apache) - FTP Services - Etc Maintaining Ubuntu: - Maintain Ubuntu Desktop Course - Installing Ubuntu (Class) - Computer Hardware Primer (Class) - Working Printing (Class) - Installing and Removing Programs (Class) - Etc - Maintain Ubuntu Server Course - Init Scripts (Class) - Crontab (Class) - Setting up Ssh (Class) - Etc - Maintaining Ubuntu Networks Course - Networking Primer (Class) - DHCP Services (Class) - DNS Services (Class) - Physical Wiring (Class) - Etc The reason why I separate these into their own levels, is because if we don't we won't be able to cut the sections up enough for it to make sense for the kinds of 4-6 week courses that we might want to run. I also believe that if we want to translate application specific course that they should be done outside of the Ubuntu sections. Inkscape, Gimp, Scribus are all Art, Publishing with Ubuntu and can safely be their own section that can have a class about file formats, creative commons licensing and other topics of interest. I wanted to make a deference between simply using the computer for what it's meant to do (even a server) and teaching people how to really maintain the services, their networks or even their desktops. Each of the sections should really be a requirement of the previous. You should know the desktop before you do advanced desktop and you should know that before you dive into the server. You should do maintain desktops before maintain servers and before maintain networks. Etc Your thoughts? Best Regards, Martin Owens <div><div></div><div class="h5"> > ---- general concept ---- > > Organize courses in 'strands' like college majors. > > Ubuntu Desktop Strand: > - Installing Ubuntu > - Open Office > - Multimedia in Ubuntu > - Gimp > - Inkscape > - Basic Command Line > - Basic Security > - Keeping Ubuntu up-to-date > - etc > > Ubuntu Server Strand: > - Installing Ubuntu > - Basic Command Line > - Apache > - MySQL > - PHP > - Basic Security > - SSH > - Advanced Security > - Keeping Ubuntu up-to-date > - etc > > I added two 'shell courses' to Moodle as an example as well. > <a href="http://learn.ufbt.net/course/view.php?id=9" target="_blank">http://learn.ufbt.net/course/view.php?id=9</a> > <a href="http://learn.ufbt.net/course/view.php?id=8" target="_blank">http://learn.ufbt.net/course/view.php?id=8</a> > > I would love to get feedback. > > Thanks, > > Charles > > > -- Ubuntu-Learning mailing list <a href="mailto:Ubuntu-Learning@lists.ubuntu.com">Ubuntu-Learning@lists.ubuntu.com</a> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: <a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-learning" target="_blank">https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-learning</a> </div></div></blockquote></div>