Ubuntu-LB Open Source Software and Ubuntu Advocacy

Elias Khoury elzalem at hotmail.com
Mon May 31 15:03:03 BST 2010


I couldn't agree better. That's exactly what I tried to say.don't you think the primary goal should be to fix this broken LoCo?
> From: itnet7 at ubuntu.com
> To: ubuntu-lb at lists.ubuntu.com
> Date: Mon, 31 May 2010 09:48:02 -0400
> Subject: Re: Ubuntu-LB Open Source Software and Ubuntu Advocacy
> 
> > And what you still don't get is that THIS IS AN UBUNTU LOCO, meaning
> > no
> > windows projects are gonna be done... Stick to the subject and to the
> > aim of
> > the Loco, I don't need to make my words any clearer. Find yourself
> > another
> > Open Source team somewhere in here to give your idea to. 
> 
> I can seriously understand how Passionate all of you are for Ubuntu and
> the Lebanon Team, but please asking someone to "Find yourself another
> Open Source Team" is definitely not in compliance with the Ubuntu Code
> Of Conduct: 
> 
> "We might all experience some frustration now and then, but we cannot
> allow that frustration to turn into a personal attack. It's important to
> remember that a community where people feel <bold>uncomfortable</bold>
> or <bold>threatened</bold> is not a productive one."
> 
> Not trying to take sides here, but Jocelyn does have a point. For years
> many people in the community have used Open Source Software that runs on
> both platforms for Linux advocacy. If you look to the official Ubuntu
> Documentation they have a wiki on Loop (List Of Open source Programs" :
> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ListOfOpenSourcePrograms
> 
> On the page itself it gives this nugget of wisdom.
> 
> "Instructions: 
> 
>       * Tell all your non-Linux friends and family about the LOOP list.
>         On this list they will find free, high-quality replacements for
>         the software that they have purchased/pirated. Once they become
>         familiar with these new applications, introduce them to your
>         favorite Linux distribution, such as Ubuntu. Then help them
>         convert to Linux, using the same applications that they became
>         familiar with on Windows. 
> 
> Let's face it, this is really an effective way of allowing for new Linux
> users to test the waters in their own comfort area. Once they have
> gained a little confidence with the quality and usefulness of the
> software they will begin to look at the possibility of trying other
> things, and hopefully in our case Ubuntu. This rings true for both
> extremely technical windows users and beginners.
> 
> The beginner level windows users will have discovered that their current
> OS doesn't provide good tools and they will begin installing replacement
> applications like Firefox, Thunderbird (e-mail client), Pidgin (so they
> can use multiple IM protocols), etc. There are many other examples I can
> think of, but all of the applications that I can think of run in
> Ubuntu. 
> 
> For extremely technical, Power Users and I.T. Personnel there are also
> some really good applications that they can take advantage of to help
> the executives and co-workers understand the power and value of Open
> Source Software. Applications like: Open Office, Wire Shark (Formerly
> Ethereal), Open VPN, and even Asterisk have windows versions. It only
> makes sense that someone that has just tried Ubuntu would not feel
> comfortable on their own with trying to implement something like this if
> they are using Linux for the first time, or even just several weeks or a
> few months. 
> 
> Both of those are good examples, This could also not only be a good way
> to attract new people to Ubuntu, but also a great way to promote your
> team. Whenever you give something to someone for nothing they remember
> it, some of the potential converts won over through Open Source may very
> well become Ubuntu and the Lebanon Teams strongest advocates.
> 
> My Team and I have never actually distributed this software themselves,
> but many other Florida Linux Groups have with some decent returns in
> Members. I have definitely recommended All of the applications I have
> mentioned above to family, friends, and co-workers. 
> 
> One more little point and I will end yet another super long e-mail. I
> work as a Systems Administrator II for an IT services group who provides
> support for a local Health Care Provider. They have 10,000 employees and
> have 5 Main facilities, and about 30 off-site clinics. I have been using
> Ubuntu as my primary desktop at work, but relying upon citrix/virtual
> box whenever the need arises and I have to work on an application that
> will absolutely not run on Linux even under wine. I have about 70
> co-workers, only about 2 of them used to use Ubuntu with me. When Lucid
> released I burned a spindle of CD's and sent out an e-mail letting
> everyone know that I had some CD's available, somewhere in the
> neighborhood of 20-24 people came by the first day, and there have been
> one or two a day since then.
> 
> I am not saying this to brag, but to ask the following question: When
> any of these people approached me the flaws of windows, on what do I
> use, do you think that they would ever have began using Ubuntu on at
> least one device at work (most of them are running it at home as well)?
> I made suggestions to them about applications like Pidgin, OOo, and the
> like. If I was harsh with them, telling them that the could only run
> Ubuntu to see benefits of using Open Source Software, I feel there
> wouldn't have been such a large number of people grabbing CD's from me
> that week.
> 
> With this being said, it might be good enough to hold events to educate
> newer users that come from a windows background, on SFW (Safe For Work,
> Especially if you work in a windows shop) Open Source Applications that
> stand as alternative for m$ applications. With all of the schools that
> all of you have access to, you could easily host an Ubuntu "windows user
> orientation Day" or on Software Freedom Day, you can showcase some of
> these applications when approached by windows users.
> 
> Sincerely, 
> 
> Chris Crisafulli
> Ubuntu LoCo Council
> 
> 
> 
> 
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