Ubuntu-LB Ubuntu-lb Digest, Vol 30, Issue 27
johnny khawand
johnny.khawand at gmail.com
Mon May 31 08:53:59 BST 2010
David why don't we know about this fact till now? are you keeping them hostages?
This is a showcase that we can use to promote among other schools, 850
and not a single one of them active on the irc channel, mailing list
or showing interest in events?
We should organize a raid and release the hostages from David :P
On 5/28/10, David Correia <lebbok at gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear All,
>
> I am complete agreement with Elijah. I have 850 students and 60+ staff
> using Ubuntu and another Linux Distro. As long as you hold onto Windows
> you show the public that Windows is superior to Linux. We need to
> promote the positive things about Ubuntu and yes acknowledge the things
> that Ubuntu does not do well on e.g. Windows games.
>
> We are not an opensource group, but an Ubuntu support and LoCo group
> where we should be working on spreading the news of Ubuntu.
>
> Well done for highlighting the issue Elijah.
>
> regards,
> David
>
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>> 1. High Quality OpenSource Software For Windows Users (Jocelyn)
>> 2. Re: High Quality OpenSource Software For Windows Users
>> (johnny khawand)
>> 3. Re: High Quality OpenSource Software For Windows Users
>> (Thy Armageddon)
>> 4. Re: High Quality OpenSource Software For Windows Users (Jim)
>> 5. Re: High Quality OpenSource Software For Windows Users
>> (johnny khawand)
>> 6. Re: High Quality OpenSource Software For Windows Users (Jim)
>>
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 16:43:52 +0300
>> From: Jocelyn <jhabib at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Ubuntu-LB High Quality OpenSource Software For Windows Users
>> To: ubuntu lebanon mail list <ubuntu-lb at lists.ubuntu.com>
>> Message-ID:
>> <AANLkTim4hKMBXxw0qDGzB8SLPEJnii9am9WAvIDFdhPH at mail.gmail.com>
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>>
>> Dear All ,
>>
>> Long time ago i suggested this idea and i will lighten on it again :
>>
>> some people like Linux but cant use it or don't want to install it at all
>> ,
>> due to work restriction or many others reason but instead they like to
>> install OpenSource Software on there windows , ex OpenOffice , firefox etc
>> ... .
>> why not create for them a cd or a DVD full of these software , Powered By
>> Ubuntu Lebanon Team , it got me the idea to remaster the OpenDisc
>>
>> http://www.theopendisc.com/programs
>>
>> and then burn them on dvds and create a good cover that reflect the Ubuntu
>> LB and distribute them .
>>
>> what will be needed then :
>>
>> -Re mastering (OpenDisc)
>> -Fund it (DVDs , Printing , Etc )
>> -Distribute them
>>
>> i think this will be a great idea for getting the attraction on windows
>> users that refuse completely the idea of install Linux .
>>
>>
>> Many Thanks .
>>
>> Jocelyn
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>> Message: 2
>> Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 17:04:31 +0300
>> From: johnny khawand <johnny.khawand at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: Ubuntu-LB High Quality OpenSource Software For Windows
>> Users
>> To: Ubuntu-LB Mailing List <ubuntu-lb at lists.ubuntu.com>
>> Message-ID:
>> <AANLkTil0sP_aSyRaOKGWPhIc9DygqV8abLmmWFum6Z7D at mail.gmail.com>
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>>
>> I was going to do that with http://portableapps.com, there is a
>> company which distribute educational CDs for students a schools, i
>> talked to them to embed such thing, also i did a catalog of products
>> software for a company i thought i embed this into the CD of the
>> software but didn't propose it yet since the software is not release
>> yet.
>> I was doing this because i don't have funding to make the CDs myself.
>> So i support the idea we have to think who is our target and how to
>> reach them, we can segment by schools, companies, etc...
>> And of course where to get funding from, self funded or sponsored by
>> someone.
>> As i know CDs will cost 0.40 $ +/- the CD including print and cover
>> but for a big quantity talking thousands not less than two or three
>> thousands.
>>
>> On 5/27/10, Jocelyn <jhabib at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Dear All ,
>> >
>> > Long time ago i suggested this idea and i will lighten on it again :
>> >
>> > some people like Linux but cant use it or don't want to install it at
>> > all ,
>> > due to work restriction or many others reason but instead they like to
>> > install OpenSource Software on there windows , ex OpenOffice , firefox
>> > etc
>> > ... .
>> > why not create for them a cd or a DVD full of these software , Powered
>> > By
>> > Ubuntu Lebanon Team , it got me the idea to remaster the OpenDisc
>> >
>> > http://www.theopendisc.com/programs
>> >
>> > and then burn them on dvds and create a good cover that reflect the
>> > Ubuntu
>> > LB and distribute them .
>> >
>> > what will be needed then :
>> >
>> > -Re mastering (OpenDisc)
>> > -Fund it (DVDs , Printing , Etc )
>> > -Distribute them
>> >
>> > i think this will be a great idea for getting the attraction on windows
>> > users that refuse completely the idea of install Linux .
>> >
>> >
>> > Many Thanks .
>> >
>> > Jocelyn
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 3
>> Date: Fri, 28 May 2010 02:56:20 +0300
>> From: Thy Armageddon <thyarmageddon at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: Ubuntu-LB High Quality OpenSource Software For Windows
>> Users
>> To: Jocelyn <jhabib at gmail.com>
>> Cc: Ubuntu-lb <Ubuntu-lb at lists.ubuntu.com>
>> Message-ID:
>> <AANLkTinMeStDW57yUnN-SvtgUY26B3Msdvo28dY6k7xZ at mail.gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>>
>> On 5/27/10, Jocelyn <jhabib at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Dear All ,
>> >
>> > Long time ago i suggested this idea and i will lighten on it again :
>>
>> Last year, yes I still remember
>>
>> > some people like Linux but cant use it or don't want to install it at
>> > all ,
>> > due to work restriction or many others reason but instead they like to
>> > install OpenSource Software on there windows , ex OpenOffice , firefox
>> > etc
>> > ... .
>>
>> Yea, and that is not new !
>>
>> > why not create for them a cd or a DVD full of these software , Powered
>> > By
>> > Ubuntu Lebanon Team , it got me the idea to remaster the OpenDisc
>>
>> Ok, first and far most, what is the team called again ? "Ubuntu"
>> Lebanon Team ? Oh I thought "Windows OpenSource Lebanon Team", my bad,
>> it's either I joined the wrong team, or wait a sec ! you did :)
>> Right!!!
>>
>> It is called UBUNTU team because it is about Ubuntu, how about doing a
>> Linux Application CD on a Windows team ? Don't you think that would be
>> crossing the line ? Should I say that again each year ?
>>
>> > http://www.theopendisc.com/programs
>> >
>> > and then burn them on dvds and create a good cover that reflect the
>> > Ubuntu
>> > LB and distribute them .
>>
>> How would it reflect the Ubuntu LB ? Ubuntu-lb is about Linux Ubuntu
>> and we are burning windows DVD, marketing wise it will cause a
>> disaster we won't be able to stop people from converting to Linux.
>> Hell no one will trust Linux anymore ! mahzalle, this is a joke that's
>> what I call it...
>>
>> > what will be needed then :
>> >
>> > -Re mastering (OpenDisc)
>> > -Fund it (DVDs , Printing , Etc )
>> > -Distribute them
>> >
>> > i think this will be a great idea for getting the attraction on windows
>> > users that refuse completely the idea of install Linux .
>>
>> ummm, no it won't, actually it will be the other way around...
>> Completely, it will look like we don't trust Ubuntu as a system and we
>> are desperate to get users to install it.
>>
>> >
>> >
>> > Many Thanks .
>> >
>> > Jocelyn
>> >
>>
>> oh well, maybe you didn't get anything I said, my answer is NO
>>
>> with all due respect,
>> Elijah
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 4
>> Date: Fri, 28 May 2010 09:06:51 +0300
>> From: Jim <jr.khoury at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: Ubuntu-LB High Quality OpenSource Software For Windows
>> Users
>> To: Thy Armageddon <thyarmageddon at gmail.com>
>> Cc: Ubuntu-lb <Ubuntu-lb at lists.ubuntu.com>
>> Message-ID:
>> <AANLkTikSGrdqpGGlaRcIzYD2hl9u2r7LoFaXEfVcSbE6 at mail.gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>
>> On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 2:56 AM, Thy Armageddon
>> <thyarmageddon at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>> > On 5/27/10, Jocelyn <jhabib at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > Dear All ,
>> > >
>> > > Long time ago i suggested this idea and i will lighten on it again :
>> >
>> > Last year, yes I still remember
>> >
>> > > some people like Linux but cant use it or don't want to install it at
>> > > all
>> > ,
>> > > due to work restriction or many others reason but instead they like to
>> > > install OpenSource Software on there windows , ex OpenOffice , firefox
>> > etc
>> > > ... .
>> >
>> > Yea, and that is not new !
>> >
>> > > why not create for them a cd or a DVD full of these software , Powered
>> > > By
>> > > Ubuntu Lebanon Team , it got me the idea to remaster the OpenDisc
>> >
>> > Ok, first and far most, what is the team called again ? "Ubuntu"
>> > Lebanon Team ? Oh I thought "Windows OpenSource Lebanon Team", my bad,
>> > it's either I joined the wrong team, or wait a sec ! you did :)
>> > Right!!!
>> >
>> > It is called UBUNTU team because it is about Ubuntu, how about doing a
>> > Linux Application CD on a Windows team ? Don't you think that would be
>> > crossing the line ? Should I say that again each year ?
>> >
>> > > http://www.theopendisc.com/programs
>> > >
>> > > and then burn them on dvds and create a good cover that reflect the
>> > Ubuntu
>> > > LB and distribute them .
>> >
>> > How would it reflect the Ubuntu LB ? Ubuntu-lb is about Linux Ubuntu
>> > and we are burning windows DVD, marketing wise it will cause a
>> > disaster we won't be able to stop people from converting to Linux.
>> > Hell no one will trust Linux anymore ! mahzalle, this is a joke that's
>> > what I call it...
>> >
>> > > what will be needed then :
>> > >
>> > > -Re mastering (OpenDisc)
>> > > -Fund it (DVDs , Printing , Etc )
>> > > -Distribute them
>> > >
>> > > i think this will be a great idea for getting the attraction on
>> > > windows
>> > > users that refuse completely the idea of install Linux .
>> >
>> > ummm, no it won't, actually it will be the other way around...
>> > Completely, it will look like we don't trust Ubuntu as a system and we
>> > are desperate to get users to install it.
>> >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Many Thanks .
>> > >
>> > > Jocelyn
>> > >
>> >
>> > oh well, maybe you didn't get anything I said, my answer is NO
>> >
>> > with all due respect,
>> > Elijah
>> >
>> > --
>> > Ubuntu-lb mailing list
>> > Ubuntu-lb at lists.ubuntu.com
>> > Modify settings or unsubscribe at:
>> > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-lb
>> >
>>
>> Hello all. While I do find that the idea of an open-source software CD
>> good,
>> I agree with Elijah that distributing through Ubuntu-lb for Windows
>> computers would sens the wrong kind of marketing message. I myself am not
>> exactly a Windows hater, but this UBUNTU-LB, so we can't exactly promote
>> the
>> distribution of Windows software as that would be promoting a rival brand.
>> However if there is a group of people in Lebanon promoting OSS in general,
>> then maybe you should take your idea there Jocelyn? Understand that it's
>> not
>> your idea that I find wrong but rather the situation of its
>> implementation.
>>
>> JimRamK
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>> Message: 5
>> Date: Fri, 28 May 2010 09:35:49 +0300
>> From: johnny khawand <johnny.khawand at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: Ubuntu-LB High Quality OpenSource Software For Windows
>> Users
>> To: Ubuntu-LB Mailing List <ubuntu-lb at lists.ubuntu.com>
>> Message-ID:
>> <AANLkTilRfF8xaM7Jdrl1_vVmJ0smII0lS0p1WS08ky-Y at mail.gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>>
>> There is an effort to promote Open Source in general ( OSCLB ),
>> Jocelyn if you are interested we can work on your idea under this
>> name.
>> As i already did some exposure for it by attending conferences and
>> competitions.
>> As for the other guys also who want to work on projects not related to
>> ubuntu you can coordinate with me as well.
>>
>> But i have to clarify that when Jocelyn or me or anyone else who
>> proposes a project not related to ubuntu and send an email about it to
>> this mailing list, it is because we want you to be part of it as
>> individuals, but at the end from my part i will respect the code of
>> conduct of this mailing list and won't send emails about activities
>> not related to ubuntu.
>>
>> On 5/28/10, Jim <jr.khoury at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 2:56 AM, Thy Armageddon
>> > <thyarmageddon at gmail.com>wrote:
>> >
>> >> On 5/27/10, Jocelyn <jhabib at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> > Dear All ,
>> >> >
>> >> > Long time ago i suggested this idea and i will lighten on it again :
>> >>
>> >> Last year, yes I still remember
>> >>
>> >> > some people like Linux but cant use it or don't want to install it at
>> >> > all
>> >> ,
>> >> > due to work restriction or many others reason but instead they like
>> >> > to
>> >> > install OpenSource Software on there windows , ex OpenOffice ,
>> >> > firefox
>> >> etc
>> >> > ... .
>> >>
>> >> Yea, and that is not new !
>> >>
>> >> > why not create for them a cd or a DVD full of these software ,
>> >> > Powered
>> >> > By
>> >> > Ubuntu Lebanon Team , it got me the idea to remaster the OpenDisc
>> >>
>> >> Ok, first and far most, what is the team called again ? "Ubuntu"
>> >> Lebanon Team ? Oh I thought "Windows OpenSource Lebanon Team", my bad,
>> >> it's either I joined the wrong team, or wait a sec ! you did :)
>> >> Right!!!
>> >>
>> >> It is called UBUNTU team because it is about Ubuntu, how about doing a
>> >> Linux Application CD on a Windows team ? Don't you think that would be
>> >> crossing the line ? Should I say that again each year ?
>> >>
>> >> > http://www.theopendisc.com/programs
>> >> >
>> >> > and then burn them on dvds and create a good cover that reflect the
>> >> Ubuntu
>> >> > LB and distribute them .
>> >>
>> >> How would it reflect the Ubuntu LB ? Ubuntu-lb is about Linux Ubuntu
>> >> and we are burning windows DVD, marketing wise it will cause a
>> >> disaster we won't be able to stop people from converting to Linux.
>> >> Hell no one will trust Linux anymore ! mahzalle, this is a joke that's
>> >> what I call it...
>> >>
>> >> > what will be needed then :
>> >> >
>> >> > -Re mastering (OpenDisc)
>> >> > -Fund it (DVDs , Printing , Etc )
>> >> > -Distribute them
>> >> >
>> >> > i think this will be a great idea for getting the attraction on
>> >> > windows
>> >> > users that refuse completely the idea of install Linux .
>> >>
>> >> ummm, no it won't, actually it will be the other way around...
>> >> Completely, it will look like we don't trust Ubuntu as a system and we
>> >> are desperate to get users to install it.
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Many Thanks .
>> >> >
>> >> > Jocelyn
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> oh well, maybe you didn't get anything I said, my answer is NO
>> >>
>> >> with all due respect,
>> >> Elijah
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Ubuntu-lb mailing list
>> >> Ubuntu-lb at lists.ubuntu.com
>> >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at:
>> >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-lb
>> >>
>> >
>> > Hello all. While I do find that the idea of an open-source software CD
>> > good,
>> > I agree with Elijah that distributing through Ubuntu-lb for Windows
>> > computers would sens the wrong kind of marketing message. I myself am
>> > not
>> > exactly a Windows hater, but this UBUNTU-LB, so we can't exactly promote
>> > the
>> > distribution of Windows software as that would be promoting a rival
>> > brand.
>> > However if there is a group of people in Lebanon promoting OSS in
>> > general,
>> > then maybe you should take your idea there Jocelyn? Understand that it's
>> > not
>> > your idea that I find wrong but rather the situation of its
>> > implementation.
>> >
>> > JimRamK
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 6
>> Date: Fri, 28 May 2010 09:43:51 +0300
>> From: Jim <jr.khoury at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: Ubuntu-LB High Quality OpenSource Software For Windows
>> Users
>> To: johnny khawand <johnny.khawand at gmail.com>
>> Cc: Ubuntu-LB Mailing List <ubuntu-lb at lists.ubuntu.com>
>> Message-ID:
>> <AANLkTikdZhB9CuHS-ABOMZS7HYaH5t9BOhHdx77rRhCk at mail.gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>
>> Off topic, but I thought I'd share this tdbit of info I found
>> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=meego_10_perf&num=1
>> Apparently, MeeGo beats Ubuntu on a netbook, though I wouldn't be too
>> surprised seeing as how Intel is directly involved and can perform quite a
>> bit of Atom optimization.
>>
>> Jim
>>
>> On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 9:35 AM, johnny khawand
>> <johnny.khawand at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>> > There is an effort to promote Open Source in general ( OSCLB ),
>> > Jocelyn if you are interested we can work on your idea under this
>> > name.
>> > As i already did some exposure for it by attending conferences and
>> > competitions.
>> > As for the other guys also who want to work on projects not related to
>> > ubuntu you can coordinate with me as well.
>> >
>> > But i have to clarify that when Jocelyn or me or anyone else who
>> > proposes a project not related to ubuntu and send an email about it to
>> > this mailing list, it is because we want you to be part of it as
>> > individuals, but at the end from my part i will respect the code of
>> > conduct of this mailing list and won't send emails about activities
>> > not related to ubuntu.
>> >
>> > On 5/28/10, Jim <jr.khoury at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 2:56 AM, Thy Armageddon
>> > > <thyarmageddon at gmail.com>wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> On 5/27/10, Jocelyn <jhabib at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >> > Dear All ,
>> > >> >
>> > >> > Long time ago i suggested this idea and i will lighten on it again
>> > >> > :
>> > >>
>> > >> Last year, yes I still remember
>> > >>
>> > >> > some people like Linux but cant use it or don't want to install it
>> > >> > at
>> > >> > all
>> > >> ,
>> > >> > due to work restriction or many others reason but instead they like
>> > >> > to
>> > >> > install OpenSource Software on there windows , ex OpenOffice ,
>> > >> > firefox
>> > >> etc
>> > >> > ... .
>> > >>
>> > >> Yea, and that is not new !
>> > >>
>> > >> > why not create for them a cd or a DVD full of these software ,
>> > >> > Powered
>> > >> > By
>> > >> > Ubuntu Lebanon Team , it got me the idea to remaster the OpenDisc
>> > >>
>> > >> Ok, first and far most, what is the team called again ? "Ubuntu"
>> > >> Lebanon Team ? Oh I thought "Windows OpenSource Lebanon Team", my
>> > >> bad,
>> > >> it's either I joined the wrong team, or wait a sec ! you did :)
>> > >> Right!!!
>> > >>
>> > >> It is called UBUNTU team because it is about Ubuntu, how about doing
>> > >> a
>> > >> Linux Application CD on a Windows team ? Don't you think that would
>> > >> be
>> > >> crossing the line ? Should I say that again each year ?
>> > >>
>> > >> > http://www.theopendisc.com/programs
>> > >> >
>> > >> > and then burn them on dvds and create a good cover that reflect the
>> > >> Ubuntu
>> > >> > LB and distribute them .
>> > >>
>> > >> How would it reflect the Ubuntu LB ? Ubuntu-lb is about Linux Ubuntu
>> > >> and we are burning windows DVD, marketing wise it will cause a
>> > >> disaster we won't be able to stop people from converting to Linux.
>> > >> Hell no one will trust Linux anymore ! mahzalle, this is a joke
>> > >> that's
>> > >> what I call it...
>> > >>
>> > >> > what will be needed then :
>> > >> >
>> > >> > -Re mastering (OpenDisc)
>> > >> > -Fund it (DVDs , Printing , Etc )
>> > >> > -Distribute them
>> > >> >
>> > >> > i think this will be a great idea for getting the attraction on
>> > windows
>> > >> > users that refuse completely the idea of install Linux .
>> > >>
>> > >> ummm, no it won't, actually it will be the other way around...
>> > >> Completely, it will look like we don't trust Ubuntu as a system and
>> > >> we
>> > >> are desperate to get users to install it.
>> > >>
>> > >> >
>> > >> >
>> > >> > Many Thanks .
>> > >> >
>> > >> > Jocelyn
>> > >> >
>> > >>
>> > >> oh well, maybe you didn't get anything I said, my answer is NO
>> > >>
>> > >> with all due respect,
>> > >> Elijah
>> > >>
>> > >> --
>> > >> Ubuntu-lb mailing list
>> > >> Ubuntu-lb at lists.ubuntu.com
>> > >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at:
>> > >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-lb
>> > >>
>> > >
>> > > Hello all. While I do find that the idea of an open-source software CD
>> > good,
>> > > I agree with Elijah that distributing through Ubuntu-lb for Windows
>> > > computers would sens the wrong kind of marketing message. I myself am
>> > > not
>> > > exactly a Windows hater, but this UBUNTU-LB, so we can't exactly
>> > > promote
>> > the
>> > > distribution of Windows software as that would be promoting a rival
>> > brand.
>> > > However if there is a group of people in Lebanon promoting OSS in
>> > general,
>> > > then maybe you should take your idea there Jocelyn? Understand that
>> > > it's
>> > not
>> > > your idea that I find wrong but rather the situation of its
>> > implementation.
>> > >
>> > > JimRamK
>> > >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Ubuntu-lb mailing list
>> > Ubuntu-lb at lists.ubuntu.com
>> > Modify settings or unsubscribe at:
>> > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-lb
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