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Mon May 11 02:30:56 BST 2009
PS: Don't try to add in your reply that I am seeking to get the leadership
(as it's a typical reply of yours). First of all I'm not the only one in th=
e
team, second I'm not residing in Lebanon and thirdly, I think each person
can give his free voice to the person that he thinks that could represent
him as a Leader of this team and create a better group work, which what you
lacked since 3 years ago. By the way, someone suggested to choose 3 members=
,
this means it could be not only 1 single leader.
Best Regards,
Dani
>
>
>
> Thanks you for your kindless all you ve so supportive till now .
> Ubuntu Comunity Law : Have A good Faith
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> Jocelyn Habib
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> 2009/5/25 Samer Nakfour <samer at nakfour.com>
>
>>
>> On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 2:20 AM, Ignace Mouzannar (-ghantoos-) <
>> ghantoos at ghantoos.org> wrote:
>>
>>
>> *I think the main role of the ULT should be to
>>> promote Ubuntu in universities*
>>>
>>
>>
>> Great idea. An ambassador program (=E0 la Google) would fit perfectly [c=
heck
>> this out for further details:
>> http://www.google.com/support/jobs/bin/static.py?page=3Dstudents.html&si=
d=3Dambassador
>> ]
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Hello Jocelyn,<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><blockquote class=3D"gmail=
_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt=
0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>Dear Ghantoos=A0 or an=
y nick name you would like ,<br>
being offensive and aggressive is not ethical .</div></blockquote><div><br>=
Do you really mean it? I think everyone in the team has the right to critic=
ise anybody's work. Wasn't criticising that lead to the world's=
change to the way we know it today?<br>
=A0</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid =
rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div dir=
=3D"ltr"><br><br>-i dont know if you were on TV on Future News OR NTV or OT=
V making ubuntu more familiar for people ? <br>
</div></blockquote><div><br>How about that none of the team was aware of it=
? Is it one of your <b>individual</b> works?<br>=A0</div><blockquote class=
=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin=
: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div dir=3D"ltr"><br>=A0=A0=A0=A0 <a href=3D"http://lebos.org/interviews/" =
target=3D"_blank">http://lebos.org/interviews/</a><br><br>
-i dont know if you were you that travelled to Algeria And Morroco to follo=
w UP the Ubuntu communities ?</div></blockquote><div><br>Jocelyn, you want =
me to believe you that you traveled to Algeria just to meet them? I know yo=
u since 2006 and I know that you used to work there. Don't mix things a=
nd turn things upside down just to make it look perfect.<br>
=A0</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid =
rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div dir=
=3D"ltr"><br>-I dont know if you were the person that made the complete lay=
out of the wiki ?</div>
</blockquote><div><br>Does he need to be the one that completed the layout =
to say things he sees wrong? You can have a look on who helped out in wiki =
<a href=3D"https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LebanonTeam?action=3Dinfo">https://wiki.=
ubuntu.com/LebanonTeam?action=3Dinfo</a> . I would thank everyone's wor=
k instead.<br>
=A0</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid =
rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div dir=
=3D"ltr"><br>-i dont know if you were the initiator of the presentation of =
CNAM that attended from over 100 People ,<br>
-i dont know if you promoted the Ubuntu Comunity in SUN Microsystem Academy=
in LAU , Balamand , BAU , in Tripoly , in ALgeria 3 Universities.</div></b=
lockquote><div><br>I have been told that you represented once Opensource So=
laris and distributed it's free cds in Balamand's University. Would=
you like to say something about it?<br>
=A0</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid =
rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div dir=
=3D"ltr"><br>-i dont know if you were when we created the ubuntu-lb on face=
book and your tracking the events ????? we sent that to everybody </div>
</blockquote><div><br>Umm.. I did not receive such a mail. Looks like anoth=
er personal activity.<br>=A0</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=
=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; p=
adding-left: 1ex;">
<div dir=3D"ltr"><br>
-i dont know if you were the person that making contact=A0 with the Lebanes=
e army and the lebanese intelligence and the ISF and the ministry of educat=
ion to intagrate ubuntu=A0 ?</div></blockquote><div><br>Very nice.. And <b>=
yet</b> another individual work, I am not aware of (being a member since 20=
06). Well done.<br>
=A0</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid =
rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div dir=
=3D"ltr"><br>
<br>-i dont know if you were the person that trying to get sponsors=A0 to m=
ake events and large billboards for ubuntu <br><br>
-Why you were sleeping all that time ?</div></blockquote><div><br>I think y=
ou should try to believe or try to adapt yourself that this is a group work=
and not an individual work?<br>=A0</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" =
style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8=
ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div dir=3D"ltr"><br>
-Why you did not share with US ur Opinions <br>
<br>
-why you dont work with us when dont you let me help you in my connections?=
</div></blockquote><div><br>There were always opinions, but no one knows wh=
ere the team is. 1 meeting each year, looks like I'm dreaming.<br>
=A0</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid =
rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div dir=
=3D"ltr"><br>
<br>
-did you make meetings with AUF ? for schools and universities yes i
went to algeria to meet them so we can integrate ubuntu in french lyce
and schools .<br><br>-yeh when i called for help to get somebody track me n=
obody answered me .</div></blockquote><div><br>I don't remember this pa=
rt Jocelyn. When you suggested something, I personally was always trying to=
give a hand. When someone was on designing a website, you kicked off his w=
ork instead of encouraging. You setup your drupal, asked for who wants to w=
ork on it, I sent you an email requesting an access to work on it, did you =
reply? Shall I post that mail? Or ask Gmail to send you a copy of it to you=
r mail box at home?<br>
=A0</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid =
rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div dir=
=3D"ltr"><br><br>Etc..............<br><br>you want to help or be a leader (=
Lebanese Mentality)<br>
<br>
you think this ethical , please no bold holds unofficial meeting or unoffic=
ial websites , i asked several times for helps in many things no body answe=
red , so you make sites for your self ? who is supporting you who is listen=
ing who is , Ubuntu wont be like politics in Lebanon you make groups and at=
tack people is this what you want , this is a discrimination what ur making=
and it happened too much while too much like to talk and take chairs , do =
you think team leader is a chair ?</div>
</blockquote><div><br>Didn't I ask you the same question in my second p=
ost in this chain mail? People are tired of all this Jocelyn, You are just =
like a sleeping bear, you wake up once in a while when someone tries to cha=
nge something for the sake of the whole team.<br>
=A0</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid =
rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div dir=
=3D"ltr"><br>
<br>i call for a physical meeting i don't want Internet meetings Lebano=
n is small and we can see each others :D and if Ur not available in Lebanon=
this is another issue will specify the date later .<br><br></div></blockqu=
ote>
<div><br>Did you read this Jocelyn? <a href=3D"https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCo=
TeamLeader">https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoTeamLeader</a> . I really hope you =
do. Let's look at the most interesting part of it (Though, I did post i=
t in my first reply to this chain mail).<br>
<br><p class=3D"line874">A local community team leader should ... <span cla=
ss=3D"anchor" id=3D"line-14"></span><span class=3D"anchor" id=3D"line-15"><=
/span></p><ul><li><b>Be active in and part of the community or group that t=
hey are representing. They should be visible and accessible. </b><span cla=
ss=3D"anchor" id=3D"line-16"></span></li>
<li>Lead by example, not by telling others what to do. <span class=3D"ancho=
r" id=3D"line-17"></span></li><li><p class=3D"line862">eventually, become a=
n Ubuntu Member. See <a class=3D"http" href=3D"http://www.ubuntu.com/commun=
ity/processes/newmember">here</a> for details. <span class=3D"anchor" id=3D=
"line-18"></span></p>
</li><li><p class=3D"line862">Remind people of the <a class=3D"http" href=
=3D"http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/conduct">Ubuntu Code of Conduct</a=
>, if necessary. It's important that the level of respect in Ubuntu str=
etches to all Ubuntu communities. <span class=3D"anchor" id=3D"line-19"></s=
pan></p>
</li><li>When
wearing their Ubuntu Local Community Team Leader hats, leaders should
be reasonably impartial about political or cultural conflict. Try to
reflect Ubuntu's apolitical stance and don't confuse the issues. <s=
pan class=3D"anchor" id=3D"line-20"></span></li><li><b>Finally,
a leader should step down gracefully if he or she is no longer able to
be a good community team leader. There is no shame and no harm in being
too busy to do the job well, but there is in being too busy, not saying
anything, and blocking the work of an entire group. </b></li></ul>How many =
of those did you accomplish so far? When was your first time on the IRC, si=
nce 32 weeks.<br><br>19:56:19 [FreeNode] -NickServ(NickServ at services.)- Inf=
ormation on magaltavor (account magaltavor):<br>
19:56:19 [FreeNode] -NickServ(NickServ at services.)- Registered : Mar 27 13:1=
6:34 2004 (5 years, 8 weeks, 6 days, 04:38:43 ago)<br>19:56:19 [FreeNode] -=
NickServ(NickServ at services.)- Last addr=A0 : n=3D<a href=3D"mailto:magaltav=
@38.119.107.110">magaltav at 38.119.107.110</a><br>
19:56:19 [FreeNode] -NickServ(NickServ at services.)- Last seen=A0 : Oct 14 14=
:14:50 2008 (32 weeks, 1 day, 03:40:27 ago)<br><br>=A0Very nice.. How about=
to give anyone else a chance to see what will change. From your posts I ca=
n see that you are a democtratic person, right?<br>
<br>PS: Don't try to add in your reply that I am seeking to get the lea=
dership (as it's a typical reply of yours). First of all I'm not th=
e only one in the team, second I'm not residing in Lebanon and thirdly,=
I think each person can give his free voice to the person that he thinks t=
hat could represent him as a Leader of this team and create a better group =
work, which what you lacked since 3 years ago. By the way, someone suggeste=
d to choose 3 members, this means it could be not only 1 single leader.<br>
<br>Best Regards,<br>Dani<br><br>=A0</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote"=
style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.=
8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><br><br>
Thanks you for your kindless all you ve so supportive till now .<br>Ubuntu =
Comunity Law=A0 : Have A good Faith <br><br>Jocelyn Habib<br><br><br><br><d=
iv class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/5/25 Samer Nakfour <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a h=
ref=3D"mailto:samer at nakfour.com" target=3D"_blank">samer at nakfour.com</a>>=
;</span><br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, =
204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div><div></div><=
div class=3D"h5">
<div dir=3D"ltr"><div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, May 25, 2009 a=
t 2:20 AM, Ignace Mouzannar (-ghantoos-) <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"m=
ailto:ghantoos at ghantoos.org" target=3D"_blank">ghantoos at ghantoos.org</a>>=
;</span> wrote:</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">
<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" =
style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8=
ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div><i>I think the main role of the ULT should be =
to<br>
promote Ubuntu in universities</i></div></blockquote></div><br><div><br></d=
iv></div><div>Great idea. An ambassador program (=E0 la Google) would fit p=
erfectly [check this out for further details:=A0<a href=3D"http://www.googl=
e.com/support/jobs/bin/static.py?page=3Dstudents.html&sid=3Dambassador"=
target=3D"_blank">http://www.google.com/support/jobs/bin/static.py?page=3D=
students.html&sid=3Dambassador</a>]</div>
<div><br clear=3D"all">----<br>Samer Nakfour =A0=96 =AB Less is more. =BB<b=
r><br><a href=3D"http://samer.nakfour.com/" target=3D"_blank">http://samer.=
nakfour.com/</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.lebgeeks.com/" target=3D"_blank">=
http://www.lebgeeks.com/</a></div>
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