Ubuntu-LB Team leadership

johnny khawand johnny.khawand at gmail.com
Sun May 24 20:11:37 BST 2009

Before you appoint a leader, you should list activities related to ubuntu
that can be done during the year.
And then the person who is capable of doing them will commit to do them, you
cannot appoint a leader and then say lets see what activities we should do
and later have same problem with the leader not having time.
Since nobody has time to do all activities because of work, location it is
better that there be a per activity person in charge the one who is capable
of being in charge of this activity.
Wel sama zar2a

On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 9:58 PM, Dani Soufi <danisoufi at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Ubuntuers,
> In a reply to Ignace, I would like to say that I completely agree.
> Ubuntu-lb team isn't developing in any way. Many leave the team for lack of
> activity, lack of interest, or just why joining a team when nothing todo in.
> I don't think that arranging a meeting once a year is called: *A Team
> Activity*. I'm personally a member since 2006, since the first ubuntu-lb
> team formation, I have never felt like working in a team, it feels like each
> one does his work on his own, why building a team then?
> In addition, there were couple of meetings that failed, due to it's
> leader's of participation, if a leader became more busy with his personal
> life, job or for whatever reason, why should the whole team live with it?.
> Does team leadership mean a title? or cooperative team work to achieve
> goals? What goals did our team achieve since 2006?
> I hope every member of this team is aware and agrees on those lines in
> Ubuntu's definition of Leadership:
>> There are two meanings of the term *leader*. One is *tell others what to
>> do*, the other is *others follow you because you set a good example*. The
>> first concept does not work well in any volunteer organization, and Ubuntu
>> Local Teams are no exception.
>> Some teams work quite well without a formally-appointed leader. Some teams
>> elect their leader. Some, unfortunately, do have problems finding a
>> structure that works for them. Ultimately, however, every team has one or
>> more leaders, whether or not they're formally elected or appointed.
>> The Ubuntu community cannot, and does not want to, prescribe which formal
>> structure its local teams whould use. We want to document what works, and
>> which problems to avoid.
>> A local community team leader should ...
>>    - Be active in and part of the community or group that they are
>>    representing. They should be visible and accessible.
>>    - Lead by example, not by telling others what to do.
>>    -
>>    eventually, become an Ubuntu Member. See here<http://www.ubuntu.com/community/processes/newmember>for details.
>>    -
>>    Remind people of the Ubuntu Code of Conduct<http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/conduct>,
>>    if necessary. It's important that the level of respect in Ubuntu stretches
>>    to all Ubuntu communities.
>>    - When wearing their Ubuntu Local Community Team Leader hats, leaders
>>    should be reasonably impartial about political or cultural conflict. Try to
>>    reflect Ubuntu's apolitical stance and don't confuse the issues.
>>    - *Finally, a leader should step down gracefully if he or she is no
>>    longer able to be a good community team leader. There is no shame and no
>>    harm in being too busy to do the job well, but there is in being too busy,
>>    not saying anything, and blocking the work of an entire group. *
>> *Officially documented in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoTeamLeader*
> From those lines, it's clear to me and to few others which could agree with
> me, that how currently everything works, isn't how it actually should be.
> For this and more I want to call all the team members that consider them
> selves worth being in this team for an emediate gathering to put an emediate
> end to such a long lasting situation. I would give my voice to held team
> elections if considered vital.
> Sincerely,
> Dani Soufi
> On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 8:01 PM, Ignace Mouzannar (-ghantoos-) <
> ghantoos at ghantoos.org> wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> This mail is addressed to all the active team members, and
>> specifically to the actual team leader (i.e. Jocelyn Habib).
>> We have had many discussions on the IRC channel of the team
>> (#ubuntu-lb on freenode) concerning the actual leadership of the team,
>> and many of us agree the team leadership can't stay as it is today.
>> Here are some questions that need to be answered.
>> First of all, is the actual team leader Jocelyn Habib still active? Or
>> is he still interested in managing the Ubuntu Lebanon Loco team?
>> It is my opinion that he is not interested anymore, but he may
>> disagree, in which case I would be glad to hear from him on that
>> matter.
>> Secondly, is it possible to vote to change the actual leader? I see
>> many team members who are much more implicated and dedicated into
>> building an active team of Lebanese ubuntuers, and I find it's a pity
>> they are slowed down by a nonexistent leadership.
>> Last but not least, the Ubuntu Lebanon Loco team has not been approved
>> yet. I find this last point quite important as is would make us
>> eligible for certain benefits such as marketing materials, discounts
>> or other possibilities. This would help the team to launch events in
>> universities to promote Ubuntu and Open Source.
>> To sum up, I am asking the actual team leader (i.e. Jocelyn Habib) to
>> step down from his current position and make this rather uncomfortable
>> situation easier for all of us.
>> Kind regards,
>> Ignace M -ghantoos-
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