[Ubuntu_Tamil] எ-கலப்பை தமிழ்நெட் 99 - உபுண்டு தமிழ்நெட் 99 வேறுபாடுகள்

Sethu skhome at gmail.com
Tue Oct 3 12:53:39 BST 2006


Dear friends

Pardon me, I am writing in english so that I would be quicker in these
responses.

I have gone through Ravi's two postings one under this thread and the
other 2 days back.

As a general observation I think we have reached a stage that we have
to sort and comaprtmentalize problems. Discussing all issues together
in same mail can cause more confusions especially for beginners.

In this mail only some points regarding m17n-contrib and "tamil99"
layout for clarifications.

Mauran said:
> நாங்கள் scim இனையே தீர்வாக கொள்வோம்.
>

> 1. scim இற்கான தமிழ் 99 வடிவத்தை கண்டுபிடிக்கவேண்டும் (இருந்தால்) சேது
> சொன்னபடி தேடிப்பார்த்தேன். உபுண்டு repositories இல் contrib பொதி இல்லை. அதனை
> சேது எமக்கு அனுப்பிவைத்தால் நல்லது.

The tamil99 I mentioned is actually from m17n-contrib which can be
added to m17n back end of scim. Shall we avoid saying  "scim இற்கான
தமிழ் 99" and say like "scim+m17n இற்கான தமிழ் 99" or something like
that. Because when we refer to backend products as that of scim,
beginners can be misled to think that all such backends are part and
parcel of scim.

Sorry I had not mentioned in my concerned earlier message that the tar
ball for m17n-contrib is from the m17n download site. These
contributions (m17n-phonetic, inscript and tamil99) were made by the
same Red Hat team (Jens Peterson and others- they  were the ones who
made earlier in 2005 the scim-tables phonetic and inscript packages).
When they ported the phonetic and inscript from tables to m17n they
also made m17n-ta-tamil99 sometimes in March 2006 and for some time it
was in their (RedHat) repositories. Then it was upstreamed to m17n
starting with being in cvs first and then as separate folder some
weeks back (I think 2 months back)

The URL site for m17n-contrib tarball is:
http://www.m17n.org/m17n-lib-download/m17n-contrib-1.0.0.tar.gz

As it is tarball it has to be compiled and installed using the
configure-make-make install 3 steps.

And BTW, Mauran m17n-contrib is the place to which you should try to
upstream your m17n-ta-ava.  Can do if you join m17n-lib mail-list and
consult concerned persons in Japan (like Mr. Takahashi)

Now about whether the tamil99 of m17n is more conforming than
e-kallapai to the 12 rules of tamil99 standard of TN gov., I have to
recheck at home today. Few weeks back when I checked different tamil99
kbs in windows and linux I had found either the m17n's tamil99
keyboard for Linux or BashaIndia's (Indic IME) tamil99 for Windows was
performing better than e-kallapai for Windows and recollect it was
only one of the two but not both. I do not remember these oofhand
because I do not use tamil99 other than for testing (including my own
make for scim-KMFL which I will share soon)

Mauran I need another clarification: For Dapper from where did you
install m17n basic packages, i.e., m17n-db and m17n-lib plus scim-m17n
bridge. Because I did not find any debianised binary or sources for
m17n in Ubuntu LTS 6.06 repositories or installer CD.
(I got the those two m17n tar balls from m17n download site and the
scim-m17n from scim-im.org download site and then compiled and
installed each of them).

More later

~Sethu


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