[Ubuntu-l10n-eng] Divergences between ubuntu-l10n and gnome-i18n regarding en_GB
toby.smithe at gmail.com
Wed Sep 13 23:36:50 BST 2006
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Bastien Nocera wrote:
> On Wed, 2006-09-13 at 22:15 +0100, David Lodge wrote:
>> On Wed, 13 Sep 2006 21:14:08 +0100, Alex Hudson <home at alexhudson.com>
>>> While I don't like "Trash"; "Dustbin", "Rubbish", "Waste" etc. I think
>>> are actually worse - they're kinda "dirty" words. Microsoft used
>>> "Recycle bin" which doesn't have the muck connotation, but isn't quite
>>> so clear a term (presumably for both all English OSes?).
>> Microsoft only really pay lip service to UK translation - most of their
>> apps don't have a translation and it's still the "Recycle Bin" in Windows.
>> Mac OS X is even worse - it's still "Trash". Our friends in KDE call it
>> the "Waste Bin". Outlook uses "Deleted Items" and "Dumpster" (the deleted
>> item's deleted items).
>> I don't think we'll ever get a solution that'll keep everybody happy.
>> In terms of liason 'twixt the Ubuntu and Gnome lists, I don't mind doing
>> that: I was planning to join the Ubuntu guys anyway (once I get my
>> problems with my graphics card sorted out). I'm also on the Fedora
>> translation list as well.
> You're a workaholic Dave ;)
> IMNSHO, "Wastebasket" is fine. It's not that good a word, but was use by
> both Apple (who seems to now prefer Trash), and Microsoft (although I
> don't know their latest quirks on the en_GB).
> For GNOME 2.18, we might want to change that.
> "Deleted Items" is obviously wrong, as Peter pointed out.
> "Rubbish bin", and the likes, as you just pointed out have a bad
> I've got two (maybe three) decent proposals, before people start yelling
> abuse at me. "Paper bin". Although it's not really paper we're throwing,
> Documents are usually paper-made (in real life), and we're just
> mimicking real-life. There's also "Garbage bin", which David didn't
> mention. still has a bad connotation though.
> Finally, I'll propose "Bin". It's:
> 7. Any receptacle for holding rubbish or waste, esp. waste paper; a
> according to the OED.
> "Waste-bin" although I've never heard it used might not be too bad.
> I'd go for "Bin", and sod them all ;)
And this is where we get into the discussion that we had on Ubuntu:
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