[Ubuntu-l10n-eng] [Bug 72304] Re: "Deleted items folder" name doesn't make sense

[Tom Harris]

I really have three main issues with "Deleted Items".

1. It's a bit long and cumbersome (not the end of the world).
2. It's an oxymoron. You can't have a folder of Deleted Items.
3. Attached is the pop-up for when you press shift-delete (to delete a file, rather than move it to the Wastebasket as was). As is correct, the window points out that "If you delete an item, it is permanently lost". This doesn't make any sense when the Wastebasket is called "Deleted Items". So currently the user has two ways to remove a file. They can delete it to the "Deleted Items folder" or they can delete it. Confused yet? Exactly. Wastebasket/Trash wasn't perfect, but at least it kept a distinction between simply moving the file and permanently erasing it.

I've looked through the mailing list archives, and it seems this change
was decided on a poll of 18 people (14 voting for "Deleted Items").
Hardly an impressive sample size, and only translators could vote not
users. What's more I couldn't find the reasoning behind a change being
needed at all.

It's all very well getting bogged down in "but technically it's not a
bin it's a folder" because then you you could just rename "file" to
"Collection of Binary" and folder to "Collection of collections of
binary". Real life metaphors work, that's why they've always been used.

I was amazed to see one person suggest it should be changed to "Deleted
Items folder" because they never said "Wastebasket" in real life. I
wonder how often they say "Deleted Items" in real life?

Finally, having done a quick search, how many bugs do you reckon are
filed against the use of the name Wastebasket? You guessed it, none.

It wasn't broken, so why was it "fixed"?

** Attachment added: ""If you delete an item, it is permanently lost""
   http://librarian.launchpad.net/5361014/delete_means_gone.png

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"Deleted items folder" name doesn't make sense
https://launchpad.net/bugs/72304