[Ubuntu-l10n-eng] setup/set-up, plugin/plug-in and login/log-in

[Dan Bishop]

On Mon, 2006-08-28 at 00:56 +1000, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote:
> On Monday 28 August 2006 00:08, William Anderson <neuro at well.com> wrote:
> > Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote:
> > > How should we handle setup/set-up, plugin/plug-in and login/log-in?
> > >
> > > For instance, which of these three sentences would be more correct?
> > >
> > > * "I am going to login to the box."
> > > * "I am going to log-in to the box."
> > > * "I am going to log into the box."
> >
> > You missed one:
> >
> > * "I am going to log in to the box."
> >
> > If we're going to deprecate "login", which personally I prefer and is
> > listed on dictionary.com, but isn't in the OED, then I would think "log in"
> > - and ergo "log in to" - are preferable.  However, I would still favour
> > "login" in the same manner as "program" and "dialog box".
> >
> > I would utterly disagree with using "log-in".
> 
> Firstly, dictionary.com is based on The American Heritage Dictionary, and 
> hence is incompatible with en_GB. Secondly, "into" is a valid word in the 
> Cambridge and Chambers dictionaries, and I believe that it better reflects 
> spoken usage (for most people, the words run into each other).
> 
> I would like to have some consistency across the three words mentioned in the 
> Subject header of this thread (along with other similar words). The simplest 
> rule I can think of, keeping the en_GB dictionaries and spoken usage in mind, 
> is to use hyphenated versions for nouns and separate words for verbs.
> 
> I completely disagree with "dialog box". All it does is introduce 
> inconsistencies into the English language (unless you want all of the *logue 
> words to change along with it) for little benefit. "Program" might be an 
> exception to this due to its widespread general use. I don't think your 
> average person would even know what a dialog[ue] box is.

I agree, I think it should be dialogue box, it is a box that displays
dialogue...so why not?

Login should be a word on its own though. It is used so frequently it
has become a part of our language, just like program to mean computer
program. Program can be a verb, "I program computers" or a noun, "I ran
the program." Therefore, I think login should be the same.

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