[Ubuntu-l10n-eng] Expanding the scope of the en-GB translation

[Ben Goodger]

On 19/08/06, Toby Smithe <toby.smithe at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sat, 2006-08-19 at 22:48 +1000, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote:
> > On Saturday 19 August 2006 22:05, William Anderson <neuro at well.com>
> wrote:
> > > Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote:
> > > > On Tuesday 15 August 2006 19:46, "Matthew Vermeulen"
> > > > <mattvermeulen at gmail.com>
> > > >
> > > > wrote:
> > > >> I definitely prefer 'rubbish bin', but that's just me, I suppose.
> Around
> > > >> here, at least, noone refers to anything except 'rubbish' and
> 'rubbish
> > > >> bin', never 'garbage' or 'trash'. 'Wastebasket': I agree with what
> you
> > > >> said on that.
> > > >
> > > > In that case, I propose that the entries in the "Dialectical
> Differences"
> > > > table remain the same, apart from "Wastebasket" which should become
> > > > "Rubbish Bin". Since we have already been using Wastebasket in our
> Dapper
> > > > translations, I suggest that this change takes place as of Edgy.
> > > >
> > > > Any thoughts on this?
> > >
> > > Where is the precedent for using "Rubbish Bin" in an operating
> system?  It
> > > sounds awfully unprofessional sounding to me.  I know "Trash" sounds
> no
> > > better, but can you imagine someone's face when they install an OS,
> > > selecting en-GB, and seeing "Rubbish Bin" on their desktop?
> >
> > On the whole, the effect is no different from "Wastebasket", "Recycle
> Bin", or
> > as you yourself have mentioned, "Trash". My point is that "Wastebasket"
> > sounds odd in many places but AFAIK "Rubbish Bin" is quite universal
> > worldwide (including the UK).
>
> I must agree that here - in Kent - Wastebasket sounds odd to me. I have
> never said it; but when reading the word, it's just rather a mouthful.
> I'd much agree that "Rubbish Bin" is much better, but a bit lengthy. It
> may also sound a bit alien to the conservative; who (at least here) know
> of the Rubbish Bin as the green "wheelie bin". Just "Rubbish" is
> probably better still, but still carries a strange feel to it. Trash is
> definitely a no-go, though.


As has been said, "Rubbish Bin" sounds a little like naming Nautilus "File
Cabinet" and the GIMP as "Artist's Workshop": it's nice to have a metaphor
(Heil HIG!) but it doesn't work very well here.

Google uses Deleted Items for GMail's "trash" folder. I think we should move
away from the bin metaphor and instead use something like "deleted items"
which is unambiguous.

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-- 
Ben Goodger
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"kiel oni povas vivi sencerbe?".
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