Well the problem is not getting Linux users.. It's only getting Ubuntu users. Under yahoo groups, there's an active Kenyan Linux group.. most of the stuff they post is technical, so I'm not particularly active there.. It would be cool if a CD set version of Ubuntu with all the existing packages was available.. I also use Mandriva cuz of this availability. Through it, I learnt to create and use a samba connection (I'm lovin it!).. Apparently, Ubuntu can't shutdown a PC.. I can complain all I want, I know u may not take any heed.. I could post on every Kenyan site, that we intend to create a physical Linux community and hopefully a centre, some place, like a PC World Warehouse..