On 7/1/07, Paul O'Malley <<a href="mailto:ompaul@eircom.net">ompaul@eircom.net</a>> wrote: > > Adam Miller wrote: [.. why do people like Sarah Hobbs get away with abuse ..] > All people are human and if you are pushed by some random event I have > no doubt that you also loose your cool. Can you say you don't? Paul, you are funny. You and some Freenode Staff members aswell as some members of the Ubuntu IRC-Council modify the reality like it fits best for your personal needs. Thats psychology tricks from the marketing and advertizing field. Fact is, the both sides are possibly human. But depending on the position of one involved person, the opponent person is automatically a troll or offender. And no matter how the conflict between Sarah Hobbs and me shows to other people, fact is that she told me repeatedly to fuck off. And there is different levels of escalation. Her second step was to take one of my mailing list postings and quote them with the comment "this person is a troll, be warned". And then you always look at the end result, and not how involved people used clearly the wrong methods for de-escalation and conflict management. Its impossible to have a more perfect conflict management as user than people in priviledged positions. Keep that in mind. Patrick