New roles in the Ubuntu IRC team

[Chris Oattes]

On Fri, October 28, 2011 08:36, Matt Darcy wrote:

> I think you're seeing a common thread here......the black hole.
>
> It's not that people don't want to do something/can't do something,
> people ARE doing things, people ARE trying to do exactly what you've
> outlined, I don't see how making this yet "another" official process
> will change the black hole issue.
>
>
> I fully support the idea of people doing things, because it's already
> happening, or has already happened and black holed so often that people
> don't see the point of doing things any more as it appears to go
> no-where (I'm sure you can guess, I'm sat in that camp).
>
> If you can explain how this process of officially making champions will
> change the black hole problem, I think you'd get a lot of people back on
> board with the concept and give a little more encouragement to the
> people who are already behind the idea.
>

Jussi's suggestion is basically saying give some power back to the
community, which all but removes the IRCC from most processes. I don't
think this goes far enough. Scrap the IRCC, remove it from any process and
stop it being a black hole. While it exists in its current form, it will
continue to be a black hole, wasting hours of other peoples effort that
just gets ignored. Give the power back to the IRC community, let them vote
on procedure, meta issues etc. and set up a separate dispute resolution
team.

If the IRCC can't handle the 6 or 7 jobs listed in the original email
between 5 people, when some of the jobs only require 5-10 minutes of time
each month or so, then what workload can we expect these people who
volunteered to give up their time to be on the IRCC to actually take on?
Items that need to be done every X period of time should be assigned
internally within the IRCC to make sure things get done. Jobs which are
carried out on an ad-hoc basis are done already by the people that notice
them. If we take all of the work away from the IRCC, why do we still need
it? And, to be clear, if member(s) of the IRCC don't have the time to do
the jobs that they should be doing, they should step down so that the spot
can be filled by someone willing/able to devote more time to the position.


Chris (Seeker`)