Call for discussion to clarify the IRC guidelines

[IdleOne]

On 11-07-18 11:49 AM, Juha Siltala wrote:
> Hi,
>
> It has been called to the IRC Council’s attention that a general
> discussion on the IRC guidelines could be useful. This is not to
> review the guidelines themselves, but to make sure we all know what
> their implications are, and to harmonize the behavior of operators
> when dealing with everyday and not-so-everyday situations on our
> channels.
>
> For instance, there have been references to “double standards” between
> and within channels. This implies that different operators read the
> guidelines differently, or simply have different styles of working.
> This doesn’t have to be a huge problem, or a problem at all, but it
> might be useful to discuss our work occasionally, and this message is
> an attempt to start one such discussion. We do, of course, have our
> coordination channel where we could have this discussion. But email,
> as an asynchronous medium, might be a valuable addition as everyone
> can participate at their own preferred time and pace.
>
> Some of the points that don’t always seem to be fully clear, or
> completely agreed upon are:
>
> - What exactly does “family friendly” mean? We obviously don’t want to
> allow cursing, personal attacks and such, but we might want to
> tolerate some amount of “horseplay” on social channels, such as
> #ubuntu-offtopic. But as a multicultural project, we might have some
> difficulty in defining this. How do we currently approach this issue?
> How should we improve?
What I think family friendly means is not what I think is appropriate to 
talk about with my family but rather what I think is appropriate for ME 
to talk about in front of YOUR family.

> - What is supported in #ubuntu and other support channels? Only
> sofware supported by Canonical? Only software that’s included in
> either main or universe? Only free software? Should we support users
> trying to run popular Windows games with Wine?
What should be supported in #ubuntu: If it is not in main, universe, 
multiverse or partners then I don't think it should be supported in the 
channel. PPA's are "use at your own risk" so to me that means support at 
your own cost or contact the PPA maintainer.

##windows is great for windows support.
#winehq does an awesome job at support. IF Wine is broken then yes 
#ubuntu might be the appropriate place to get support but I would think 
that #winehq can do a better job in this case.

> No doubt there are many more small and big things where our opinions
> may differ, and I’d love to see them discussed openly here, as well as
> in the coordination channel. Please give this some thought when you
> have time and bring up your own suggestions here on the list. Also,
> let’s use the coordination channel to the fullest, to keep the team as
> well greased as it is, and perhaps make us even better!
>
> Thanks,
>
IdleOne.