Perhaps it would be wise to open #Ubuntu-LTS?

[Michael Lustfield]

On Mon, 10 May 2010 15:50:32 -0400
Jason Ribeiro <jason.ribeiro at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 7:37 AM, Jo-Erlend Schinstad <
> joerlend.schinstad at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > I was thinking it might be a good idea to open #Ubuntu-LTS instead of
> > redirecting it to #Ubuntu.
> 
> [...]
> >
> Don't you think?
> >
> 
> I have to disagree with this proposal mainly because there aren't too many
> release-specific issues that pop up in #ubuntu that aren't in the release
> notes.  #ubuntu+1 deals with issues specific to using an unstable version,
> issues that are usually different than #ubuntu.  #kubuntu, #xubuntu (are
> there more?) deal with different desktop environments.  #ubuntu-server,
> again focuses on very specific tasks.  With an LTS release however, what
> sort of issues come up to warrant a channel separate from #ubuntu?  I'm sure
> I could name a handful, but not much more.
> 
> But there are other reasons too.
> 
> Creating a #ubuntu-lts channel and shuffling LTS users there splits the
> users providing support into two channels.  This makes it harder to get
> support, unless the user asks in both channels which defeats the purpose of
> the channel.
> 
> On top of that, it will create more non-support chatter in #ubuntu due to
> all of the "forwarding traffic" like #ubuntu+1 already does.
> 
> I think that if an LTS user simply announces he is using an LTS release in
> #ubuntu it accomplishes what #ubuntu-lts hopes to accomplish, namely having
> other LTS users to talk to.
> 
> That's my two cents.  In the end, I don't think LTS is different enough from
> the other supported releases to really benefit from a separate channel.
> However, a lot of people seem to be supporting the idea, so I wouldn't
> object to a trial period of a week or two to see how things work out.
> 
> jrib

One thing I want to add is that it has been stated this channel would be for
desktop support only because we have #ubuntu-server. However, #ubuntu is for
desktop support primarily and server specific support is sent there if it can't
be easily answered in the core support channel #ubuntu. Limiting to desktop
support for LTS releases seems pointless at this point from what I've been
reading.

I could only really see using an #ubuntu-lts channel if it's for both desktop
and server support where the version being supported is both not the current
release, and still supported.

If the channel was made to that respect, I would see a good place for it.
However, it the current proposal makes little sense to me.

-- 
Michael Lustfield
Kalliki Software, LLC

Network and Systems Administrator