#ubuntu-ops policy discussion

[Joseph Price]

On 2 February 2010 13:44, Joseph Price <pricechild at gmail.com> wrote:
> http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2010/01/27/%23ubuntu-ops.html is my case in
> point. Sorry its you jussi, but it could be most of you guys in -ops.

Just reading up today's logs... and two more great examples where I
don't think anything productive was gained...

http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2010/02/02/%23ubuntu-ops.html

Both of these are initiated by ikonia.

I believe ikonia should have tried to engage JayCool in /query first.
Judging by the text there it didn't happen. I also see a claim of "3
kicks".... really... 3 kicks? That'll only aggravate the situation, if
you really need to stop someone participating in the channel, try
talking with them first, and then mute.

With the mkanyicy77, note Pici joining in the discussion. Then elky.
THIS is -ops ganging up against users. Its not needed, it didn't need
to be in -ops. Ikonia should have dealt with the guy in a better way,
outside the channel and then reported the result into -ops to let
people know what was going on. Perhaps he should have even tried to
engage the person first & reported in -ops before the kick.

 Unfortunately I don't see the end of that conversation.

I don't have the full details on either of these issues, however
judging by the script, it seems that the users were kicked (several
times?) with in my opinion, not enough effort to engage them
beforehand. I don't think this is as good as we can be.