Stepping down from the IRC team

[Michael Lustfield]

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On Sun, 06 Sep 2009 10:33:57 +0100
Matt Darcy <ubuntu.lists at projecthugo.co.uk> wrote:

> Michael Lustfield wrote:
> > This may come across as out-of-topic but I'd like to make a few points..
> > 
> > I have used a large variety of distributions. If you see my laptop,
> > it's a very trimmed down version of Ubuntu with a Command Line
> > installation and the bare minimum I need. Often mistaken for Gentoo or
> > Debian. The point being, I could achieve an even more powerful system
> > if I were to use Gentoo. I've had Gentoo, LFS, Debian, Linux Mint,
> > College Linux, CentOS, Fedora, SUSE, openSUSE, and around 40 others.
> > 
> > The number one reason I left all but 5 of those was usability. I left
> > Gentoo and two others for fully different reasons than anything listed.
> > When it comes down to it, I've stopped trying different distributions
> > because I settled on Ubuntu.
> > 
> > I settled on Ubuntu because of the community behind it. I enjoy the
> > usability behind it, the bleeding edge releases (I'm using Karmic), and
> > Launchpad. However, it is solely the community that keeps me around.
> > I've even voiced this point directly to sabdfl a while back.
> > 
> > If I were to be given the op privilege, upholding this point would feel
> > that upholding that point would be an obligation. I do my best to help
> > others when they bring a question to me. If I can't find the answer, I
> > do my best to find it. In some way or another, I want to make sure the
> > user is satisfied in the end.
> > 
> > One thing I see happening is a misunderstanding of new users. Not
> > everyone has been around IRC and some issues come up because of this.
> > I don't want to draw any specifics, but when I meet a new user like
> > that, I do my best to educate them.
> > 
> > We all need to remember why we became an operator at all. I doubt you
> > did it for the power. If I were to take a guess, it would be because
> > you thought you could help the community further with the position. I'm
> > not an op in any core #ubuntu channel, so perhaps my perception is
> > wrong. Maybe you did do it just because you want to be the 'boss man'.
> > 
> > I think the key right now is to recognize that good ops have been lost
> > due to conflicts. Then we can recognize that there are issues in the
> > midst. Perhaps then we can schlep these issues out. Any other order is
> > just going to bring us back to further issues.
> > 
> > I want to toss out an example. My glass is empty. I fill it up again to
> > resolve the issue. Unfortunately it becomes empty again. I keep
> > trying to fix the empty glass, but I can't get it. I see a hole and
> > cover it. I fill it but it still goes empty. I finally realize the
> > issue is many many holes. The holes are too many and I can fix each
> > hole but it will be too hard. Instead I grab a new glass and my drink
> > does not empty. If you really read what I said - that should make sense
> > (no bashing required).
> > 
> > Remember, being an op is a privilege and a responsibility. To uphold
> > the spirit of Ubuntu. To help when needed. To... (I'm only using common
> > sense, I don't really know exactly what you guys say about it.)
> > 
> 
> 
> Can I please request that more pointless lectures and and "uphold the
> prime directive" type speeches are put on the back burner and discuss
> the issue/questions at hands.
> 
> I find this post quite offensive to the people who give up their time
> and put the effort into the channels to have someone say "maybe you did
> it to become the boss man"
> 
> I'm sorry if this is harsh, but I I want to put and end to more well
> wishing lecturers quoting "the right answer" rather than contributing to
> the discussion.
> 
> I again call for this to be discussed in a more professional and private
> manner so that more well intended emails to not get included to cloud
> the issue and so that people can feel comfortable talking freely and
> actually put closure on the issues being discussed.
> 
> Matt
> 

I did explain a couple issues. I did so without pointing fingers and
without going into detail. Perhaps reading this would have helped.

With the reply I got to this however, I've removed my ubuntu/member
hostmask. I've dropped out of about 15 #ubuntu* channels. I've begun
looking for replacements to some Ubuntu projects I've been working on.

In addition, I'm looking around to see if there are any distros I will
like better. It'll be a weird search considering I've been using Ubuntu
since 5.04.

I'm going to stop following this discussion and let Daviey tell be if
there's anything I should read.

- -- 
Michael Lustfield
Kalliki, SD LoCo

Network and Systems Administrator
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