Post election IrcTeam/IrcCouncil changes

Mark Shuttleworth mark at ubuntu.com
Tue Dec 22 18:53:04 UTC 2009


Matthew East wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 3:45 PM, Mark Shuttleworth <mark at ubuntu.com> wrote:
>   
>> Elizabeth Krumbach wrote:
>> On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 9:55 AM, Nathan Handler <nhandler at ubuntu.com> wrote:
>>
>>  * The Council will have a chairman with a casting vote, appointed by
>> the Community Council
>>
>>
>> The IRCC can have this position if they want and request that the CC
>> appoint someone, if not they can remove it from the document. Just let
>> us know.
>>
>> No, this is standard policy in CC and TB and I would prefer to leave it in
>> place for the IRCC and other delegated boards. If it's not in the delegation
>> guidelines, it should be. In general, we'll appoint the chairman that the
>> council prefers, but we reserve the right to do otherwise if needed.
>>     
>
> As far as I know, none of the delegated councils have this position,
> and it isn't part of the delegation guidelines. Personally I don't
> think I've ever seen the need for a chairman in these boards and I
> would generally prefer to encourage such councils to escalate an issue
> to the CC as appropriate where there is no clear consensus or a
> deadlock among council members because such an issue would obviously
> be delicate and would probably warrant taking further advice. If you
> really want to push the idea, I think that it should be discussed
> first at a CC meeting. I don't think it's fair to push it into the IRC
> Council guidelines before there is a clear policy for it in our
> delegation guidelines.
>   
AIUI the Forums do have a Chair, and those were the template for us when
we formulated the delegation process, so I'm surprised. I would be
surprised if it were contentious that (a) someone be the designated
lead, and (b) they have a casting vote, and (c) they be appointed by the CC.

I think escalation to the CC is not necessarily dependent on deadlock,
it may also just reflect unhappiness in the community or in the council
concerned.

Mark
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