<meta http-equiv="CONTENT-TYPE" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><title></title><meta name="GENERATOR" content="OpenOffice.org 2.2 (Linux)"><meta name="AUTHOR" content="Bhavani Shankar"><meta name="CREATED" content="20071031;22374500"> <meta name="CHANGEDBY" content="Bhavani Shankar"><meta name="CHANGED" content="20071031;22392500"><style type="text/css"> </style> yes definitely.so i respect each one of them... See my definition of team lead is entirely different.. See our community for example every one is qualified and every one is a developer.. In opensource rather than working under someone(that violates the definition  of opensource and foss  motto of freedom)  you work along with  some one... and since everyone is treated on par and everyone is experienced those corporate stuff of team leader and a sir vagera vagera vanishes.. All of them work in the same community to make the world a better place to live in rather than the day gone by... Any takers on this?<br><p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;">Secondly.. My pov in a single line of indian members is i told that a token of acknowledgement  would/can be given for those who contribute  to the community.. thereby instilling interest among newbies  thereby giving them  a  PUSH...  If  your answer  is  in the negative Answer this question please.. If everyone of the working mass was/were committed towards their work without any push from others, India would have been a developed country by now and would have easily surpassed America as the big daddy of universe na?   <br>Thirdly I see no wrong in our Indian community structure to say it sucks.. I am just trying to say that it could be better if  some sort of modifications are done to the team.. And I think i have proved my credentials on the bigger ubuntu community to be here..:)<br>Finally I believe that getting people to contribute and running a team which has many contributors is an art rather than the theory and science and experience...<br>I ll never quit the team and i ll never talk on it also.. but this is for granted that you can expect 100% committment from my side always...<br>Regards,<br>Bhavani Shankar.</p> <br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 10/31/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">Kingsly John</b> <<a href="mailto:member+ubuntu@kingsly.net" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">member+ubuntu@kingsly.net </a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> +++ Bhavani Shankar R [2007-10-31 16:41:31]:<br><br>> par mera hindi aur kannada bhashaiyo mein zara sa tight hold hain...<br>> aur onde string bhashantara maadidhakke adhu nange kannada athava kannada<br>> development gothilla anta alla... the way kingsly spoke was conveyning that <br>> same meaning..<br><br>I never questioned your skills or your kannada knowledge, the point I was<br>making was about there being people "more qualified"/"more experienced" than<br>you to "lead" such an effort and those people would most definitely not want <br>to work "under" you.<br><br>I'm sure a lot of people here admire your enthusiasm but you need to channel<br>it in the right way and direction.<br><br>First get it out of your head that everyone here is against you, or thinks <br>lowly of you because you are a student, all of us were students once, and we<br>never had half the opportunities you have today and we would like you to<br>make the most of it.<br><br>So please stop threatening to quit in every other email you send to the list. <br>Leave that job to our politicians.<br><br>Everyone here wants as many people involved as possible, but they also want<br>people who will work with the team. Most people here are just advising you<br>with good intentions their even if their tones may not be <br>ultra-friendly(they have encountered such situations before and know how<br>things turn out.), but they don't hate you or don't want you to succeed.<br><br>Just like you can't walk into your College/University's Principal/VC's office <br>and tell him/her that the indian education system sucks and so it needs to<br>be changed right *NOW*. You can't do that in an established community either,<br>work your way up until you have proven yourself and then your suggestions <br>will be taken a lot more seriously.<br><br>Most of the people here have been involved with Linux and other community<br>related efforts much longer than you and you have to give some weightage to<br>their experience/wisdom when they say it's not the right way to do something. <br><br>> kingsly who is an ubuntumember i presume...<br><br>No I'm not and have no intentions of ever being one.<br><br>Kingsly<br>--<br>--------------------------------------------------------------------------- <br>      Kingsly At Users Dot SourceForge Dot Net  -- <a href="http://kingsly.org/" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">http://kingsly.org/</a><br>--------------------------------------------------------------------------- <br><br>--<br>ubuntu-in mailing list<br> <a href="mailto:ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com</a><br><a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in</a><br></blockquote></div><br>