"personally feel coding using Vim or Emacs to be faster, efficient and comfortable than using a GUI tool like Eric for my work." BUt I think Working on Eclipse is much faster when you dont have to remember all sort of syntax and when u satrt typing, the program assist you with available options and also their descriptions. My dear friend, thats why Eclipse got the fame, for being most intelligent and complete IDE for Java, (also its immature plaugins, PHPand PyDev are there, worked on to make it better). For python I would suggest SPE. VIM is a very good editor, plethora of functionality in it, but it walks away from your mind, when you start on Eclipse. Eclipse also has automated compiling on each save or with incremental typing, which instantly tells you where your syntax is wrong. It was a better development. Simple theory is, in the lack of X server, we had only CLI. so we worked hard to get most out of it. Then we got stable and mature X, satrted improving the system and came GUI. Now in GUI, we have to progress and have everything. Windows and MacOSx (for example) have much done on GUI. They too have CLI tools (windows management tools for admins) to do the task over network. And those tools are pretty mature afaik. so there is no such issue what we are doing it. It is fact and linux is evolving from CLI towards GUi and lacks manything. Your argument is not justifiable my brother. Please try to understand and contribute to make it better. We dont have time to fight over the rule that we have many things,. World knows Linux is mature platform, for Development and Server. Even Google uses Ubuntu at its Developers platform. But when we talk about the common users, it doesnt onyl mean to developers and testers and server admins. It includes all, like office and home people too. Children and Moms too. The complete freedom that is the aim of Linux isnt only to serve Developers and Geeks, but to everyone. You know why india still is a pirate market even the alternative Linux is free of costs with so many aaplications? People just arent aware and if they try, most of them walk back to Windwos in absence of finding a friendly environment. Most of the time my system run on Ubuntu, and for sometime i have to go to windows to do some game practice and Dreamweaver tasks. Like flash designing too.. So, right now, Linux is not as mature as others are (in term of GUI tasks). I read blog of a person who said Ubuntu is very easy and most user friendly among other available Linux, but then he also admitted that he had to switch back to his Mac after a week to do his task. He cannt over Linux. Many people criticizes  over this matter, but hardly it comes that those people agree and meet to do some revision (either in Facility or in idea).. most of the time killed just arguing over this and making other understand it. But dear friend, it is very clear, get out of the hood and there is no shame saying we have a hut. But we can make a Tajmahal, if we admit our hut and work to pay some contribution. Ok here is some facts you wont argue (as i think).. just experiment: Windows Explorer performs tasks and navigation quite fast than Nautilus and Konqueror (even in many files direcory c:\windows\system32 which contains more than 2000 files on general PC). OUr nautilus hangs a little and takes much time when we browse /usr/share/bin where there is also about 1800 files. Guess WHY? Nautilus has many features yet to come, like user can choose which dir to display thumbnail and many other things Apache performance on Windows has been seen more aggressive  than on Linux, same happens to MySQL A python binary (blender Game) starts faster on Windows than Linux. Why friend? if you have answer just opposite to me and want to throw some flames over, then you are just making nothing out of it. Just admit and lets contribute this summer time to our free and lovely tux. Everyone should get over this bullshit arguments and just come my side, help write benchmarks and performance bottlenecks. Also, we can contribute some time discussing and finding what would be good for Gnome 3.0 (feature collections)... -- -=Ravi=-