[ubuntu-in] Time to look inwards.

[stereotactic]

On Friday 25 February 2011 06:46 AM, satyaakam goswami wrote:
>
>     On the face of it, BOSS Linux is a good project, and
>     if they achieve even part of what they claim to be
>     doing that will be a significant achievement. Having
>     said that, I have very strong reservations about how
>     CDAC, and to a somewhat lesser extent, other governmental
>     organisations in India, such as NRC-FOSS, relate to
>     the FOSS community. IMHO, they are still in the cathedral
>     model, with themselves as the centre, and have little
>     appreciation of how FOSS works. E.g., BOSS Linux pulls
>     happily from Debian, but contributes nothing back, at
>     least when I last looked. You could say that is how
>     government in India works, but to my mind that mode of
>     functioning is exactly the problem.
>
>
> yes it  becomes much more murkier , is there a way to tap into these 
> sources of funding and use it the way we want it . Yes there is 
> no guarantee that this org or initiative will not land up in the same 
> state for worse or good , it very easy pointing fingers and saying 
> holier than though attitude. Do you see a way out shall we just ignore 
> these thought process.
The way out is not a "half hearted attempt"; rather a full scale effort. 
I mean, look at the development of "Wayland" in Ubuntu. Despite all the 
prowess (and a publicly funded project), why can't we have a better 
project than this?

Debian based distro is fine but I still have to come across a review. I 
use Linux Mint (9) which is being maintained by a close group of 
individuals. This way, there is more granular control over the outcome 
of distro. Therefore, the existing mechanisms need to be worked out to 
deliver and a "new domain" is not the answer.
>
>     As stereotactic mentions, the goal should be to find and
>     fix issues with Indian participation in FOSS projects,
>     rather than to try to find problems with existing work.
>     Personally, I no longer see much potential in the
>     community trying to engage with the government: We need
>     to make things work on our own. 
>
>
> ok i get the answer here , but how? form one more org ?
As I mentioned above, that's the answer. There has to be some way to 
break the log jam. How many among you are researchers/academicians? How 
many among you have actually "researched" and implemented anything "new"?

It's time to "look inwards" and make the Indian Loco better than the 
best...localization or translating is a passe'. Creating something new 
is warranted. There is no dearth of ideas, trust me. One just needs the 
effort to make it happen.
>
>
> -Satya
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