[ubuntu-in] new moderators, Ubuntu-Women [was] Re: Ubuntu-IN mailing list

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On 3/13/06, Baishampayan Ghose <b.ghose at gnu.org.in> wrote:
>
> Vidya,
> > I was going to post a message for moderators on the list but decided
> > to wait for a week and give everyone a chance to subscribe and hear
> > about the list.  After setting up UW and getting a fantastic response
> > to it, I realised that many women hardly get an opportunity simply
> > because they dont know it exists most times.  Hence I am very keen
> > that more Indian women come forward and play a larger role in the
> > local Ubuntu community. I shall post this to the Indian Linuxchix list
> > too and request you to to pass the Ubuntu-IN message to other lists
> > too. Why dont we wait for a few days and see what happens ...
>
> Do you mean you are going to hand over moderator privileges to whoever
> asks for that? Well, that's sub-optimal IMO. This is a bit different
> than UW as in this is not a general chit-chat list. The Indian LoCo
> team is a formal entity and it'd be better if we restrict admin rights
> to only the founders at the moment, that's Gora, Soumyadip, you and
> me. Kindly add me as the list owner for the time being and I will add
> others as required. I hope you have understood what I mean. :)
> Regards,
> BG

[Redirecting to the Ubuntu-IN list where it belongs ...]

That's not what I meant at all ... For the record, everyone who asks
will not be given admin rights. I am handling it fine but sharing
tasks as a team is better so you (or anyone who is interested) are
welcome to moderate this list with me but 4 admins is a tad too much
for a list where subscriber/s posts are not moderated.  Its
interesting to note that there are only 2 moderators for ubuntu-users,
which is a *very* high traffic list.

Could you please explain what you mean by "Indian LoCo team is a
formal entity".  The IN-team, as I understand, consists of
Ubuntu-users, volunteers, developers, etc...  working together to
increase communication, participation and thereby a vibrant community
that is *open to all*.  TBH, this IN-team and list would not even
exist if newcomers were not encouraged in the first place.  We still
have many ToDo's, viz. website, localisation and other stuff and
having a formal corporate style of 2-3 people telling others what they
must do is not fun (and usually never works) in a volunteer community.
 In this respect, its interesting to note that the Italian[1] team's
community structure functions without a TeamLeader with only a
LocoTeamContact, MatthewEast (mdke), yet they have a very cohesive
working structure and could be cited as a role model of how a LoCo
team works and I do hope we, the IndianTeam can learn from that.

Also I am deeply disappointed to read your comments about
UbuntuWomen[2]. This is precisely what pushes women away from
technical projects and I hope that does not happen here. FWIW, I also
founded (prefer the term 'set-up' instead :-)) UbuntuWomen and I am
proud to say that we have some fantastic people there. UW is an
International list with Jane Silber, Jane Weideman, Mark Shuttleworth,
Ubuntu developers, users and volunteers as members. So please join the
UW mailing list before forming any opinion whatsoever.

Finally I am sure you agree with me that if we expect others to work
and co-ordinate as a team, we must be open-minded and willing to trust
people (even newcomers) to some extent.

Thanks for reading,
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[1] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ItalianCommunityStructure
[2] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWomen