<html> <head> <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1" http-equiv="Content-Type"> </head> <body text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> <div class="moz-cite-prefix"> <pre wrap="">My experience has been the best route is to build your own pc from parts or pay someone to do it for you. You get a better spec for less money at cost of a bit of your time. Not so easy for laptops! My brother in law who works for dell says the xps13 developer edition built for ubuntu is due for the irish market 'soon', despite the media releases saying it is already available. Good luck with getting back your 'windows tax'. It may be your legal right, but the suppliers make sure that you will have to work harder than Martin Luther King to claim your rights. I did a run at Acer for this and their ploy was: 'You will have to courier your machine to us at your own expense that we can remove the software we own from it.' An argument which is legally flawed on many levels, but I realised it would be an epic quest against a mega corporate complex to claim my rights. Gandhi I am not! Regards to all, Michael Jonker </pre> On 03/03/13 09:08, Mark Murphy wrote: </div> <blockquote cite="mid:DUB109-W98CDDDA6259D2CA2751D7E3F90@phx.gbl" type="cite"> <style></style> <div dir="ltr">ETek is an Irish company based down near Macroom in Cork who sell PCs with the operating system of your choice. They used to manufacture their own PCs back in the '90s, but just looking at their web site now I'm not so sure they do anymore. Trade enquiries are also welcome, according to the website. <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.etek.ie" target="_blank">http://www.etek.ie</a> Komplett sell desktop PCs without an OS pre-installed. <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.komplett.ie" target="_blank">http://www.komplett.ie</a> Some nice PCs on there too. As far as I know, it is not that it is illegal to sell a computer without an Operating System, it's just that most manufacturers have already paid Microsoft a licensing fee for Windows, so it makes sense to put that Operating System onto their computers. I'd be slow enough to buy any computer gear from the States, or anywhere outside the EU, unless you're prepared to pay all the taxes and duties due once it's in the country. And the VAT is calculated once all the other duties have been lumped on. Unfortunately I speak from experience. And it can be an unpleasant experience. It might be different for trade though, the retailer may know more. <div>Thanks and Regards, Mark. > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 01 Mar 2013 22:42:10 +0000 > From: Andries vanTonder <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:ajvantonder@eircom.net"><ajvantonder@eircom.net></a> > To: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:ubuntu-ie@lists.ubuntu.com">ubuntu-ie@lists.ubuntu.com</a> > Subject: Computer suppliers information - PLEASE > Message-ID: <1362177730.1880.8.camel@AndriesAcer> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-15" > > Folks, > > Can anybody tell me where in Ireland I can source computers with UBUNTU > pre installed - not Windows. > > According to 2 major retail shops there is no supplier in Ireland. > > Curries/PCWorld apparently have a contract with Microsoft not to offer > Linux systems. > > It is apparently illegal in Ireland to sell a computer without an > operating system installed. > > At least one retailer is eager to stock UBUNTU computers. Presently he > buy units with windows pre-installed, paying for windows then have to > wipe it - a waste of money and unreasonable profit for Microsoft. > > -- > Andries vanTonder > ><> > 37 Delmere, Enfield, Co. Meath > Home: (046) 954 9748 > Mobile: 087 977 4515 > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2013 23:28:01 +0000 > From: Shane Fagan <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:shanepatrickfagan@ubuntu.com"><shanepatrickfagan@ubuntu.com></a> > To: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:ajvantonder@eircom.net">ajvantonder@eircom.net</a> > Cc: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:ubuntu-ie@lists.ubuntu.com">ubuntu-ie@lists.ubuntu.com</a> > Subject: Re: Computer suppliers information - PLEASE > Message-ID: > <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:CALqtEPLF+G-f_ogq_59XueMaA9Di30ivecqrgzL854PnpOcTww@mail.gmail.com"><CALqtEPLF+G-f_ogq_59XueMaA9Di30ivecqrgzL854PnpOcTww@mail.gmail.com></a> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Hey, > > There is no supplier in Ireland currently but you can buy online from > System76 if you want an Ubuntu computer without paying for windows. > Their site is <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.system76.com/">https://www.system76.com/</a> > > As for the retailer id suggest if they want to stock Ubuntu computers > that they email system76 too because if they really want they might be > able to become a reseller. I can ask the owner if they are interested > and see what he says. I can't see why it would be a problem, since it > would be the exact same as buying off the site except for they would > be ordering from the store. > > Regards, > Shane > </div> </div> <fieldset class="mimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset> </blockquote> </body> </html>