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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 07/12/12 21:59, barry b wrote:<br>
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        Hey folks.<br>
        <br>
        This is my first time writing in to the mailing list. However i
        usually read or at least scan every email that comes in. In the
        last year, i've notices the laps in emails, due to inactivity.<br>
        <br>
        Over the last few months there was a lot of talk and a lack of
        talk about the state of the Irish loco team in the last year. As
        Somebody mentioned in an earlier mailing list post the
        reapproval date is this year, (To be specific it is the
        30/6/2013.) and that maybe it would be in the best to let it
        pass. I can see where he/she (can't remember who it was ) is
        coming from but it think that this would be putting a nail in
        the coffin of the team.<br>
        <br>
        There is several suggestions which i think we should try out
        before making a decision whether or to reapply or not to reapply
        for approved local team status in June of next year.<br>
        <br>
        Here are some of my suggestions.<font style="font-size: 10pt;"
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              style="font-size: 10pt;" size="2">) Local <font
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    Hi Barry,<br>
    <br>
    Sincere thanks for joining the discussion and adding to the efforts
    to rekindle interest in the Irish Ubuntu LoCo Team. I was the one
    who raised the question about the state of the Irish LoCo in 2012.  
    The lack of responses to your great e-mail (including the delay in
    my response) only adds to my belief that although there is general
    goodwill towards keeping the LoCo active there is limited passion
    for the task.  I was heavily involved in writing the re-approval
    application in 2011 and I am still of the opinion that a re-approval
    application in 2013 would not be legitimate based on our LoCos
    activity since summer 2011.<br>
    <br>
    Taking your points in turn I'd like to give my views.  These are
    just my views and are no more or less valid than your own or anyone
    else's.<br>
    <br>
    1) Local Promotions. Regarding the System 76 powered by Ubuntu
    promotion stickers.  Have a look at:<br>
    <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-ie/2010-January/000463.html">https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-ie/2010-January/000463.html</a>
    . A member of our LoCo had a bunch of these stickers and the
    promotional impact of these was limited. If you, or anyone else can
    build on this idea or has other promotional ideas please give voice
    to them and act on them.<br>
    <br>
    2) I fully agree with you idea about advertising LoCo events on a
    broader base including, but not limited to, <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.boards.ie">http://www.boards.ie</a>. 
    Does anyone have  experience with boards.ie or other relevant
    promotional streams? For this to even come into play though we would
    need to restart Irish LoCo events (something which I sincerely hope
    we do).  Anyone with promotional/marketing experience/ideas please
    chip in!<br>
    <br>
    3) As you said, Ubuntu linux gaming is exciting and real.  I am
    personally too old for this! Any ideas on how we can build on Ubuntu
    linux gaming to enhance LoCo activity?<br>
    <br>
    4) I fully agree with the idea of restarting the IRC meetings.  In
    my opinion (I know this is disputed) these are the lifeblood of a
    LoCo. When our team IRC meetings finally stalled in July 2012 our
    already faltering team finally went into dormancy.  Let's restart
    them! I am totally flexible with frequency and length.  <br>
    <br>
    Can I be bold and call for an Irish LoCo Team REBOOT IRC meeting in
    our IRC channel on Wednesday 06 Feb 12 at say 20:30?  What are LoCo
    members thoughts on this?  This is so important to me that I will
    send a separate post to the mailing list on this.<br>
    <br>
    I again thank you Barry for voicing your opinions and I passionately
    encourage you and all other interested members to take a more
    active, central, role in our LoCos activities.<br>
    <br>
    Our LoCo is, I believe, a do-ocracy!<br>
    <br>
    Kind Regards and Happy New Year to All!<br>
    <br>
    Mike O'Donohue<br>
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