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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 07/12/12 21:59, barry b wrote:<br>
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Hey folks.<br>
<br>
This is my first time writing in to the mailing list. However i
usually read or at least scan every email that comes in. In the
last year, i've notices the laps in emails, due to inactivity.<br>
<br>
Over the last few months there was a lot of talk and a lack of
talk about the state of the Irish loco team in the last year. As
Somebody mentioned in an earlier mailing list post the
reapproval date is this year, (To be specific it is the
30/6/2013.) and that maybe it would be in the best to let it
pass. I can see where he/she (can't remember who it was ) is
coming from but it think that this would be putting a nail in
the coffin of the team.<br>
<br>
There is several suggestions which i think we should try out
before making a decision whether or to reapply or not to reapply
for approved local team status in June of next year.<br>
<br>
Here are some of my suggestions.<font style="font-size: 10pt;"
size="2"><font style="font-size: 10pt;" size="2"><br>
<br>
</font><font style="font-size: 10pt;" size="2">1<font
style="font-size: 10pt;" size="2">) Local <font
style="font-size: 10pt;" size="2">promotions</font>.</font></font>-
Every <font style="font-size: 10pt;" size="2">Friday Syst<font
style="font-size: 10pt;" size="2">em 76 give free s<font
style="font-size: 10pt;" size="2">tickers. <font
style="font-size: 10pt;" size="2">If you liv<font
style="font-size: 10pt;" size="2">e outside the US
of A <font style="font-size: 10pt;" size="2">, you
<font style="font-size: 10pt;" size="2">are
suppose to contact your local<font
style="font-size: 10pt;" size="2"> <font
style="font-size: 10pt;" size="2">loco team
and they <font style="font-size: 10pt;"
size="2">give there l<font
style="font-size: 10pt;" size="2">ist
here of what team <font
style="font-size: 10pt;" size="2">take
part
(<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.system76.com/community/stickers/">https://www.system76.com/community/stickers/</a>).
<font style="font-size: 10pt;"
size="2">The per<font
style="font-size: 10pt;" size="2">son
wh<font style="font-size: 10pt;"
size="2">o wants the stickers <font
style="font-size: 10pt;"
size="2">is</font> <font
style="font-size: 10pt;"
size="2">asked to send a stam<font
style="font-size: 10pt;"
size="2">p<font
style="font-size: 10pt;"
size="2"> addressed <font
style="font-size: 10pt;"
size="2">envelope</font>
to the loco te<font
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size="2">am. However a<font
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do<font
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not</font><font
style="font-size:
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take part in th<font
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, thi<font
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free <font
style="font-size:
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size="2">service</font><font
style="font-size:
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size="2"> </font>
is <font
style="font-size:
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size="2">unavailable<font
style="font-size:
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size="2">. I
would like if
the admin(s) <font
style="font-size:
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<font
style="font-size:
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<font
style="font-size:
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a f<font
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stickers to be
sent over t<font
style="font-size:
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tea<font
style="font-size:
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</font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font><br>
<font style="font-size: 10pt;" size="2">2) I t<font
style="font-size: 10pt;" size="2"><font style="font-size:
10pt;" size="2">hink</font> <font style="font-size:
10pt;" size="2">Publicity</font> is important for ubuntu
and t<font style="font-size: 10pt;" size="2">his loco team
. <font style="font-size: 10pt;" size="2">I would sugge<font
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style="font-size: 10pt;" size="2">herings, <font
style="font-size: 10pt;" size="2">news ect
should be posted on <font
style="font-size: 10pt;" size="2">the
site <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://">http://</a><font style="font-size:
10pt;" size="2">www.<font
style="font-size: 10pt;" size="2">boards.ie<font
style="font-size: 10pt;" size="2">
as people m<font style="font-size:
10pt;" size="2">ight not know or
even hear of the maili<font
style="font-size: 10pt;"
size="2">ng<font
style="font-size: 10pt;"
size="2"> lists.<font
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size="2">G<font
style="font-size: 10pt;"
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going and ask an admin
to get it made as a
sticky<font
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many people p<font
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games here, bu<font
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Sure you heard
of li<font
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another
thought.<br>
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<font
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Hi Barry,<br>
<br>
Sincere thanks for joining the discussion and adding to the efforts
to rekindle interest in the Irish Ubuntu LoCo Team. I was the one
who raised the question about the state of the Irish LoCo in 2012.
The lack of responses to your great e-mail (including the delay in
my response) only adds to my belief that although there is general
goodwill towards keeping the LoCo active there is limited passion
for the task. I was heavily involved in writing the re-approval
application in 2011 and I am still of the opinion that a re-approval
application in 2013 would not be legitimate based on our LoCos
activity since summer 2011.<br>
<br>
Taking your points in turn I'd like to give my views. These are
just my views and are no more or less valid than your own or anyone
else's.<br>
<br>
1) Local Promotions. Regarding the System 76 powered by Ubuntu
promotion stickers. Have a look at:<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-ie/2010-January/000463.html">https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-ie/2010-January/000463.html</a>
. A member of our LoCo had a bunch of these stickers and the
promotional impact of these was limited. If you, or anyone else can
build on this idea or has other promotional ideas please give voice
to them and act on them.<br>
<br>
2) I fully agree with you idea about advertising LoCo events on a
broader base including, but not limited to, <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.boards.ie">http://www.boards.ie</a>.
Does anyone have experience with boards.ie or other relevant
promotional streams? For this to even come into play though we would
need to restart Irish LoCo events (something which I sincerely hope
we do). Anyone with promotional/marketing experience/ideas please
chip in!<br>
<br>
3) As you said, Ubuntu linux gaming is exciting and real. I am
personally too old for this! Any ideas on how we can build on Ubuntu
linux gaming to enhance LoCo activity?<br>
<br>
4) I fully agree with the idea of restarting the IRC meetings. In
my opinion (I know this is disputed) these are the lifeblood of a
LoCo. When our team IRC meetings finally stalled in July 2012 our
already faltering team finally went into dormancy. Let's restart
them! I am totally flexible with frequency and length. <br>
<br>
Can I be bold and call for an Irish LoCo Team REBOOT IRC meeting in
our IRC channel on Wednesday 06 Feb 12 at say 20:30? What are LoCo
members thoughts on this? This is so important to me that I will
send a separate post to the mailing list on this.<br>
<br>
I again thank you Barry for voicing your opinions and I passionately
encourage you and all other interested members to take a more
active, central, role in our LoCos activities.<br>
<br>
Our LoCo is, I believe, a do-ocracy!<br>
<br>
Kind Regards and Happy New Year to All!<br>
<br>
Mike O'Donohue<br>
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