How is the Ubuntu Ireland LoCo doing?

[Mike O'Donohue]

Thanks for that Keith, very interesting.

Regards,

Mike

At 21:46 12/09/2012, Keith Drummond wrote:

>Hi All,
>
>Just going to pick up this thread as I came across an 'audiocast' 
>(read: podcast) by a Vancouver Ubuntu LoCo. It is their first one so 
>it might not be as polished as some other shows, but they do have an 
>interesting segment on Community. Early in the podcast they talk 
>about the type of people that get attracted to Ubuntu then the 
>section on Community starts around the 9m12s mark. I found it 
>interesting hearing how they all got involved, how the LoCo grew and 
>how they are planning on continuing that growth in the future. You 
>can listen to it at <http://ubuntu.audioca.st>ubuntu.audioca.st.
>
>Which reminds me, should we have an IRC meeting soon to feel out if 
>anybody wants to meet for the release of the Quetzal on Oct 18th?
>
>All the best,
>
>Keith Drummond (aka Victor9098)
>
>
>
>On 4 September 2012 11:06, Mike O'Donohue 
><<mailto:airurando at eircom.net>airurando at eircom.net> wrote:
>Hi All,
>
>Sincere thanks Jeffrey, Carles and Moylan for the views 
>expressed.  I am a bit disappointed that more people didn't get 
>involved in the discussion also.  It does seem to indicate that the 
>Irish LoCo is in a near dormant state.   I agree with what has been 
>said thus far with one minor exception.  I wouldn't say that Ubuntu 
>Hours have the same purpose as the pint of the day (PoTD) linux 
>group monthly meetups. My simplistic view on both is as follows:
>
>PoTD: a social meetup for serious linux geeks.
>
>Ubuntu Hour: a social meetup for anyone interested in dipping their 
>toes into linux with serious linux geeks also present.
>
>However I fully agree that the Ubuntu hours were not working for us 
>recently.  Participation in the monthly irc meetings has also 
>fizzled out and the mailing list is quiet as well.
>
>As the LoCo appears to be in a period of hibernation perhaps we 
>should reduce the activity dramatically and see if we can rekindle 
>interest in the LoCo and Ubuntu.  Again I say I don't want us to 
>just drift on.  We need to accepth the current state of affairs and 
>then reboot!
>
>As I see it,at a minimum, we should continue to distribute the 
>official CDs as widely and efficiently as possible.  I reckon the 
>mailing list and meetings are required to organise this and agree on 
>strategies.  This is our responsibility as long as we remain approved.
>
>What about holding meetings every two months or quarterly?
>
>I also think we should continue to hold release parties.
>
>I realise the discussion has been Dublin centric in relation to the 
>physical meetups.  I reckon at the moment there is more Ubuntu Loco 
>interest in Galway and Limerick.  Everyone is free to organise 
>whatever events or activities they want.
>
>Can we keep this LoCo going?  I hope we can.
>
>Regards,
>
>Mike O'Donohue.
>
>
>
>On 29/08/12 03:32, angryearthling wrote:
>the issue of meetups is one that i've thought about quite a 
>bit.  there is also the pint of the day meetups once a month so any 
>monthly meeting is competing against those.  they are generic linux 
>meetings.  a specialist single distro meetup once a month seems to 
>be too much for the small community.
>
>perhaps every 2 or even better every 3 months the physical meetups 
>should take place.  the greater interval means that there'll be more 
>to talk about if the same 3-4 folk turn up at least :-)
>
>oh and as a gamer what ever interval is chosen avoid meetups in 
>august as that is the worst month as a percentage of available 
>people will be on holiday or unable to change plans as they are 
>filling in for those on holiday.
>
>we could even use the potd meetings as a contact point just by 
>making sure that somebody is there with ubuntu logos on hoodies 
>tshirts or plushie.  only 1-2 of the usual 3-4 suspects need do that.
>
>but i don't want to see the loco die.  ubuntu and linux in general 
>deserves better.
>
>my 2c, hope it was worth reading,
>moylan
>
>On Sat, 04 Aug 2012 21:12:28 +0100, Android Stream 
><<mailto:carles at 091labs.com>carles at 091labs.com> wrote:
>
>Not so long ago I mention a few things I thought about the dynamics on the
>group, it was more on about the IRC and the mailing list.
>
>As a Galway member is harder to take part on the meetings, etc and I always
>found hard to attend the IRC meetings as usually would be busy somewhere
>else. One of the reasons I prefer the mailing list as I can engage on a
>conversation at my convenient time.
>
>I also found just like Jeffrey pointed out, which is hard to keep people
>engage with the group, not because of the lack of interest but because of
>the overlap on so many other groups.
>
>In 091 Labs most members use one distro or another based from Ubuntu, and
>they all love it and like it, but within the hackerspace we also have the
>GLUG (Galway Linux User Group), python group and of course the labs itself.
>All the members within those groups are already members of the hackerspace
>and we all see each other on a regular basis.
>
>At least here in 091 Labs the GLUG seems to be a bit more successful, think
>because it doesn't tie the group to a singular distro but Linux in General
>which in itself Ubuntu is already involved.
>
>With that said I wouldn't like to see the group disappearing.
>
>On Sat, Aug 4, 2012 at 7:29 AM, Mike O'Donohue 
><<mailto:airurando at eircom.net>airurando at eircom.net> wrote:
>
>Thanks for that Jeffrey,
>
>True words.
>
>Just to add a little info.  I was asked off list about the requirements
>for gaining/maintaining approved status for LoCo Teams. In case others are
>wondering about the same question I thought i'd stick a copy of my reply
>with this thread:
>
>Hi,
>
>Not sure what the minimum requirements are.  Guidelines on gaining LoCo
>approval and reapproval can be found at:
>
><https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoGettingApproved>https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoGettingApproved
>
>I just feel that currently we are coming up severely short.
>
>Mike
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Jeffrey Roe" <<mailto:tdr112 at gmail.com>tdr112 at gmail.com>
>To: "Mike O'Donohue" <<mailto:airurando at eircom.net>airurando at eircom.net>
>Cc: <mailto:ubuntu-ie at lists.ubuntu.com>ubuntu-ie at lists.ubuntu.com
>Sent: Friday, 3 August, 2012 10:40:49 AM
>Subject: Re: How is the Ubuntu Ireland LoCo doing?
>
>Hello Mike and follow Ubuntuers
>
>You rise a lot of great questions.
>
>I will give me two cents on the situation.
>
>I think the root cause of where we are now can be traced back to the
>canceling of the regular face to face meetups.
>
>The next question is why did theses stop happening ?
>
>It got to the point where it was the same four and five people at
>these meetups having the same conversation each month. People just got
>bored and stopped going. It ended up where it was just a small group
>of friends who see each other outside the meetings anyway, so there
>was little point in meeting for "ubuntu" anymore.
>
>So if we start meeting up again will it go back to the good times ?
>Without fresh infusion of newcomers(regularly) to these meetups they
>are doomed to fail and stop happening again.
>We have to keep them fresh and every changing to keep them alive.
>
>If this is some thing you want speak up and let this loco fall
>silently into oblivion
>
>Jeffrey Roe,
><http://www.tog.ie>www.tog.ie
>
>
>On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 10:18 PM, Mike O'Donohue 
><<mailto:airurando at eircom.net>airurando at eircom.net>
>wrote:
> > Hi All,
> >
> > I'm wondering what is the state of the Ubuntu Ireland LoCo?  Since
> > reapproval last year things have slowed down dramatically.  The things
>which
> > greatly helped our reapproval in 2011 have all fallen off the tracks.
> > Regular irc meetings, hosting other events, timely team reports, team
> > website and more have all dwindled or disappeared (not saying all are
> > necessary but surely some of them are).
> >
> > I'm not complaining, I fully appreciate that each individual involved is
> > doing so on a voluntary basis, but I just don't want things to drift
>along
> > as is without discussion.  Based on the current level of activity I
> > personally couldn't support the next reapproval effort (about a year
>away).
> > Perhaps the approved status of the LoCo isn't important. Interest in
>Ubuntu
> > and the Irish LoCo has waned (no need to rehash reasons here).  All that
>is
> > fair enough.
> >
> > I just want to get a healthy discussion going concerning the state of the
> > LoCo.
> >
> > Some initial questions that come to mind (not an exhaustive list):
> >
> >  Is there anyone on the list interested in taking a more active role in
>the
> > LoCo?
> >
> > Is our LoCo becoming far less active and if so is that acceptable to all?
> >
> > Are we heading towards a non approved state and are we happy with that?
> >
> > If we wish to remain approved how should we achieve this?
> >
> > I'm certainly not trying to be controversial here I just want to have
>this
> > discussed openly and fully.
> >
> > Best Regards to All,
> >
> > Mike O'Donohue
> >
> >
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