Ubuntu-ie Digest, Vol 60, Issue 1

binnie at 5lowershop.org binnie at 5lowershop.org
Tue Sep 4 13:04:02 UTC 2012 

What about Cork? Any groups formed/forming in this area? Im just a novice,
if even that. But i REALLY like the idea of community/grass roots/local
organizations sharing their knowledge and would like to participate and
help as much as possible in order to up my own Linux skills!

>binnie




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>    1. Re: How is the Ubuntu Ireland LoCo doing? (Mike O'Donohue)
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>    3. Re: Ubuntu Global Jam (Mike O'Donohue)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2012 11:06:03 +0100
> From: Mike O'Donohue <airurando at eircom.net>
> To: ubuntu-ie at lists.ubuntu.com
> Subject: Re: How is the Ubuntu Ireland LoCo doing?
> Message-ID: <5045D28B.40402 at eircom.net>
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> Hi All,
>
> Sincere thanks Jeffrey, Carles and Moylan for the views expressed.  I am
> a bit disappointed that more people didn't get involved in the
> discussion also.  It does seem to indicate that the Irish LoCo is in a
> near dormant state.   I agree with what has been said thus far with one
> minor exception.  I wouldn't say that Ubuntu Hours have the same purpose
> as the pint of the day (PoTD) linux group monthly meetups. My simplistic
> view on both is as follows:
>
> PoTD: a social meetup for serious linux geeks.
>
> Ubuntu Hour: a social meetup for anyone interested in dipping their toes
> into linux with serious linux geeks also present.
>
> However I fully agree that the Ubuntu hours were not working for us
> recently.  Participation in the monthly irc meetings has also fizzled
> out and the mailing list is quiet as well.
>
> As the LoCo appears to be in a period of hibernation perhaps we should
> reduce the activity dramatically and see if we can rekindle interest in
> the LoCo and Ubuntu.  Again I say I don't want us to just drift on.  We
> need to accepth the current state of affairs and then reboot!
>
> As I see it,at a minimum, we should continue to distribute the official
> CDs as widely and efficiently as possible.  I reckon the mailing list
> and meetings are required to organise this and agree on strategies.
> This is our responsibility as long as we remain approved.
>
> What about holding meetings every two months or quarterly?
>
> I also think we should continue to hold release parties.
>
> I realise the discussion has been Dublin centric in relation to the
> physical meetups.  I reckon at the moment there is more Ubuntu Loco
> interest in Galway and Limerick.  Everyone is free to organise whatever
> events or activities they want.
>
> Can we keep this LoCo going?  I hope we can.
>
> Regards,
>
> Mike O'Donohue.
>
>
> On 29/08/12 03:32, angryearthling wrote:
>> the issue of meetups is one that i've thought about quite a bit.
>> there is also the pint of the day meetups once a month so any monthly
>> meeting is competing against those.  they are generic linux meetings.
>> a specialist single distro meetup once a month seems to be too much
>> for the small community.
>>
>> perhaps every 2 or even better every 3 months the physical meetups
>> should take place.  the greater interval means that there'll be more
>> to talk about if the same 3-4 folk turn up at least :-)
>>
>> oh and as a gamer what ever interval is chosen avoid meetups in august
>> as that is the worst month as a percentage of available people will be
>> on holiday or unable to change plans as they are filling in for those
>> on holiday.
>>
>> we could even use the potd meetings as a contact point just by making
>> sure that somebody is there with ubuntu logos on hoodies tshirts or
>> plushie.  only 1-2 of the usual 3-4 suspects need do that.
>>
>> but i don't want to see the loco die.  ubuntu and linux in general
>> deserves better.
>>
>> my 2c, hope it was worth reading,
>> moylan
>>
>> On Sat, 04 Aug 2012 21:12:28 +0100, Android Stream
>> <carles at 091labs.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Not so long ago I mention a few things I thought about the dynamics
>>> on the
>>> group, it was more on about the IRC and the mailing list.
>>>
>>> As a Galway member is harder to take part on the meetings, etc and I
>>> always
>>> found hard to attend the IRC meetings as usually would be busy
>>> somewhere
>>> else. One of the reasons I prefer the mailing list as I can engage on a
>>> conversation at my convenient time.
>>>
>>> I also found just like Jeffrey pointed out, which is hard to keep
>>> people
>>> engage with the group, not because of the lack of interest but
>>> because of
>>> the overlap on so many other groups.
>>>
>>> In 091 Labs most members use one distro or another based from Ubuntu,
>>> and
>>> they all love it and like it, but within the hackerspace we also have
>>> the
>>> GLUG (Galway Linux User Group), python group and of course the labs
>>> itself.
>>> All the members within those groups are already members of the
>>> hackerspace
>>> and we all see each other on a regular basis.
>>>
>>> At least here in 091 Labs the GLUG seems to be a bit more successful,
>>> think
>>> because it doesn't tie the group to a singular distro but Linux in
>>> General
>>> which in itself Ubuntu is already involved.
>>>
>>> With that said I wouldn't like to see the group disappearing.
>>>
>>> On Sat, Aug 4, 2012 at 7:29 AM, Mike O'Donohue <airurando at eircom.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks for that Jeffrey,
>>>>
>>>> True words.
>>>>
>>>> Just to add a little info.  I was asked off list about the
>>>> requirements
>>>> for gaining/maintaining approved status for LoCo Teams. In case
>>>> others are
>>>> wondering about the same question I thought i'd stick a copy of my
>>>> reply
>>>> with this thread:
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> Not sure what the minimum requirements are.  Guidelines on gaining
>>>> LoCo
>>>> approval and reapproval can be found at:
>>>>
>>>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoGettingApproved
>>>>
>>>> I just feel that currently we are coming up severely short.
>>>>
>>>> Mike
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Jeffrey Roe" <tdr112 at gmail.com>
>>>> To: "Mike O'Donohue" <airurando at eircom.net>
>>>> Cc: ubuntu-ie at lists.ubuntu.com
>>>> Sent: Friday, 3 August, 2012 10:40:49 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: How is the Ubuntu Ireland LoCo doing?
>>>>
>>>> Hello Mike and follow Ubuntuers
>>>>
>>>> You rise a lot of great questions.
>>>>
>>>> I will give me two cents on the situation.
>>>>
>>>> I think the root cause of where we are now can be traced back to the
>>>> canceling of the regular face to face meetups.
>>>>
>>>> The next question is why did theses stop happening ?
>>>>
>>>> It got to the point where it was the same four and five people at
>>>> these meetups having the same conversation each month. People just got
>>>> bored and stopped going. It ended up where it was just a small group
>>>> of friends who see each other outside the meetings anyway, so there
>>>> was little point in meeting for "ubuntu" anymore.
>>>>
>>>> So if we start meeting up again will it go back to the good times ?
>>>> Without fresh infusion of newcomers(regularly) to these meetups they
>>>> are doomed to fail and stop happening again.
>>>> We have to keep them fresh and every changing to keep them alive.
>>>>
>>>> If this is some thing you want speak up and let this loco fall
>>>> silently into oblivion
>>>>
>>>> Jeffrey Roe,
>>>> www.tog.ie
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 10:18 PM, Mike O'Donohue <airurando at eircom.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> > Hi All,
>>>> >
>>>> > I'm wondering what is the state of the Ubuntu Ireland LoCo?  Since
>>>> > reapproval last year things have slowed down dramatically.  The
>>>> things
>>>> which
>>>> > greatly helped our reapproval in 2011 have all fallen off the
>>>> tracks.
>>>> > Regular irc meetings, hosting other events, timely team reports,
>>>> team
>>>> > website and more have all dwindled or disappeared (not saying all
>>>> are
>>>> > necessary but surely some of them are).
>>>> >
>>>> > I'm not complaining, I fully appreciate that each individual
>>>> involved is
>>>> > doing so on a voluntary basis, but I just don't want things to drift
>>>> along
>>>> > as is without discussion.  Based on the current level of activity I
>>>> > personally couldn't support the next reapproval effort (about a year
>>>> away).
>>>> > Perhaps the approved status of the LoCo isn't important. Interest in
>>>> Ubuntu
>>>> > and the Irish LoCo has waned (no need to rehash reasons here).
>>>> All that
>>>> is
>>>> > fair enough.
>>>> >
>>>> > I just want to get a healthy discussion going concerning the state
>>>> of the
>>>> > LoCo.
>>>> >
>>>> > Some initial questions that come to mind (not an exhaustive list):
>>>> >
>>>> >  Is there anyone on the list interested in taking a more active
>>>> role in
>>>> the
>>>> > LoCo?
>>>> >
>>>> > Is our LoCo becoming far less active and if so is that acceptable
>>>> to all?
>>>> >
>>>> > Are we heading towards a non approved state and are we happy with
>>>> that?
>>>> >
>>>> > If we wish to remain approved how should we achieve this?
>>>> >
>>>> > I'm certainly not trying to be controversial here I just want to
>>>> have
>>>> this
>>>> > discussed openly and fully.
>>>> >
>>>> > Best Regards to All,
>>>> >
>>>> > Mike O'Donohue
>>>> >
>>>> >
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> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2012 11:26:48 +0100
> From: Mike O'Donohue <airurando at eircom.net>
> To: ubuntu-ie at lists.ubuntu.com
> Subject: Re: Ubuntu-ie Digest, Vol 59, Issue 5
> Message-ID: <5045D768.8050205 at eircom.net>
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> Hi Andru and Ubuntu Ireland,
>
> Will there be a UGJ in Limerick?  Only 4 days to go.
>
> Regards,
>
> Mike
>
>
> On 17/08/12 14:12, Andru Quinn wrote:
>> I still love these and the Ubuntu hours. Consider one of these going
>> ahead in Limerick (with the venue to be sorted of course). I would
>> love to ask UL/skynet but AFAIK the event is then only open to
>> students if it's done through the college/comsoc but I can check this
>> out for sure
>>
>> Andru Quinn
>>
>> On 17/08/2012 13:00, ubuntu-ie-request at lists.ubuntu.com wrote:
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>>>     1. Fwd: Ubuntu Global Jam (Mike O'Donohue)
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>>> Message: 1
>>> Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2012 20:57:18 +0100
>>> From: Mike O'Donohue <airurando at eircom.net>
>>> To: ubuntu-ie at lists.ubuntu.com
>>> Subject: Fwd: Ubuntu Global Jam
>>> Message-ID: <502D509E.2030108 at eircom.net>
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>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> The dates for the next Ubuntu Global Jam have been announced. Anyone in
>>> Ubuntu Ireland interested in running one or participating in one?
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
>>>
>>> -------- Original Message --------
>>> Subject:     Ubuntu Global Jam
>>> Date:     Thu, 16 Aug 2012 19:50:55 +0100
>>> From:     Laura Czajkowski <laura at lczajkowski.com>
>>> Reply-To:     Ubuntu local community team (LoCo) contacts
>>> <loco-contacts at lists.ubuntu.com>
>>> To:     Ubuntu local community team (LoCo) contacts
>>> <loco-contacts at lists.ubuntu.com>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Aloha!
>>>
>>> The next Ubuntu Global Jam is coming up 6 - 9 September 2012.
>>> -http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/global/1901/detail/
>>>
>>> Details at:https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGlobalJam/
>>>
>>> The loco council has previously written some helpful hints on our blog:
>>> http://lococouncil.ubuntu.com/2011/08/16/ubuntu-global-jam-coming-soon/
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> Laura
>>>
>>>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2012 11:27:44 +0100
> From: Mike O'Donohue <airurando at eircom.net>
> To: Android Stream <carles at 091labs.com>
> Cc: ubuntu-ie at lists.ubuntu.com
> Subject: Re: Ubuntu Global Jam
> Message-ID: <5045D7A0.6080402 at eircom.net>
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> Hi Carles and Ubuntu Ireland,
>
> Will there be a UGJ in Galway?  Only 4 days to go.
>
> Regards,
>
> Mike
>
>
> On 19/08/12 00:21, Android Stream wrote:
>> I'm back home in Barcelona on holiday at the moment. Coming back at
>> the end of the month, I'll see then about hosting one in 091 Labs
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 8:57 PM, Mike O'Donohue <airurando at eircom.net
>> <mailto:airurando at eircom.net>> wrote:
>>
>>     Hi All,
>>
>>     The dates for the next Ubuntu Global Jam have been announced.
>>     Anyone in Ubuntu Ireland interested in running one or
>>     participating in one?
>>
>>     Regards,
>>
>>     Mike
>>
>>
>>     -------- Original Message --------
>>     Subject: 	Ubuntu Global Jam
>>     Date: 	Thu, 16 Aug 2012 19:50:55 +0100
>>     From: 	Laura Czajkowski <laura at lczajkowski.com>
>>     <mailto:laura at lczajkowski.com>
>>     Reply-To: 	Ubuntu local community team (LoCo) contacts
>>     <loco-contacts at lists.ubuntu.com>
>>     <mailto:loco-contacts at lists.ubuntu.com>
>>     To: 	Ubuntu local community team (LoCo) contacts
>>     <loco-contacts at lists.ubuntu.com>
>>     <mailto:loco-contacts at lists.ubuntu.com>
>>
>>
>>
>>     Aloha!
>>
>>     The next Ubuntu Global Jam is coming up 6 - 9 September 2012.
>> -http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/global/1901/detail/
>>
>>     Details at:https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGlobalJam/
>> <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGlobalJam>
>>
>>     The loco council has previously written some helpful hints on our
>> blog:
>>     http://lococouncil.ubuntu.com/2011/08/16/ubuntu-global-jam-coming-soon/
>>
>>
>>     Regards
>>
>>     Laura
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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