Howdy

[Mike O'Donohue]

Just my 2 cents worth.

I am most definitely in favour of maintaining our monthly IRC meeting.
I believe having a scheduled IRC meeting affords all members of the LoCo
the opportunity to attend and participate (granted most don't, but they
could if they wanted to!). The mailing list certainly has its place but
I don't think that using it for decision making is the best way to
agree on something. It can take days or weeks to agree on an item and
with that most members still do not participate in the discussion.
Items discussed at meetings takes minutes to decide upon in comparison
(granted many minutes in some cases).  The Ubuntu Hours are regional
and as such not a great place make decisions which affect the Irish
LoCo. I know our LoCo is structured in a very relaxed fashion but I
still believe that IRC meetings are the most efficient way of making
decisions and they do allow members from all areas of Ireland to
participate should they so desire.

For me the mailing list is way to slow for decision making and Ubuntu
Hours are just not suitable due to their regional basis.

I do agree that the current meeting time is not working and if dinners
are an issue I suggest we move it to a later time.  I'd also be happy
with a weekend meeting or a meeting on any day of the week for that
matter.  I do think that the regularly scheduled meeting is better
that unscheduled, sporadically called, meetings as scheduled meetings
are easier to remember and again they afford the greatest opportunity
for members to participate. 

With one exception, I also agree that the agenda items for Septs
meeting were not of huge significance.  I think that the item
discussing the release party was important.  The whole point in
organising the party earlier was so that we could promote it better in
the hope that we might get a better turn to it.  Many of the events
this year have been organised quite late leaving little time for
promotion.

I agree that we need increased activity in the LoCo.  We need more
people thinking about what we need to be doing as a LoCo and adding
their items to the monthly agenda.  I think getting
rid of the monthly meeting, or even getting rid of the monthly
schedule, would just facilitate our LoCos further demise.

Regards,

Mike


On Tue, 27 Sep 2011 17:32:05 +0100
laura at lczajkowski.com wrote:

> Actually my point was even about the release party Tom, only 3 people
> have signed up, so yes it's more than about being on an IRC meeting.
> If you dont want to take part on the IRC meeting fine, it's  a useful
> tool in the community to let people know what's going on, it's logged
> and can be sent to people who's going to take notes at a meet up.
> 
> It's about face to face meet up and discussion. Perhaps people want
> it to be more technical and have a talk, perhaps they would like
> something else, but at present we don't know and this loco seems to
> be slipping backwards through no fault of anyone and I'm  trying to
> help to point out other areas we can look at .
> 
> AS I said at the end of the day there are 80+ users on this mailing
> list, there has never been 80+ people posting on here.
> 
> Laura
> 
> > I think there is a difference between participating in community
> > events and being involved in IRC meetings. Having already spent far
> > too much of life in meetings, I can appreciate this.
> >
> > Having a meeting for the sake of having a meeting is pointless,
> > especially when there is nothing of interest on the agenda. How
> > about we instead meet-up at the Ubuntu Hour and discuss matters
> > over a cup of tea?
> >
> >
> > Tom.
> >
> > On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 02:42:47PM +0100, laura at lczajkowski.com
> > wrote:
> >> Well meetings are encouraged to keep the team running but clearly
> >> nobody is going to these meetings so 
> >> A) change the date to the weekend which is where we started before
> >> b) try and encourage people to come along
> >> c) find out why people don't want to take part in the community?
> >> I'm currently interested in the latter
> >> Laura 
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Tom Salmon"
> >> To:
> >> Cc:
> >> Sent:Tue, 27 Sep 2011 14:24:58 +0100
> >> Subject:Re: Howdy
> >>
> >>  Is the monthly meeting really required? If I recall from the
> >> previous meeting's agenda, there were no items of significance.
> >>
> >>  I would suggest that irc meetings are held as required, or failing
> >> that we have discussions using the mailing list on a per event
> >> basis. This would help achieve more traffic on the mailing list
> >> and it would mean no more late dinners because we have an irc
> >> meeting in the evening! :)
> >>
> >>  Tom.
> >>
> >>  On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 05:26:48PM +0100, laura at lczajkowski.com
> >> [1] wrote:
> >>  > Aloha folks!
> >>  >
> >>  > This place is a bit quiet lately and there are over 100 people
> >>  > on
> >> here. I
> >>  > was wondering how best we can kick some life into this mailing
> >> list pick a
> >>  > toic a week and discuss, or getting people to attend more of the
> >> events
> >>  > that are being run.
> >>  >
> >>  > So Ubuntu-ie are an approved team, that means in order to remain
> >> active
> >>  > and get the LoCo cds and have some perks we've to show we do
> >> things. Last
> >>  > night Mike was the only person bar myself to show up to the
> >> meeting. so
> >>  > either the date or time is wrong ?
> >>  >
> >>  > We do need more input and that's where you come in. It's a
> >> community, so
> >>  > we need to kinda act more and do more, I also appreciate time is
> >> precious
> >>  > so how can we do things more efficiently.
> >>  >
> >>  > The team has organised a party for the next release 11.10 out on
> >> October
> >>  > 13th and so far not many people have signed up! It's a great
> >> excuse to
> >>  > meet one another and put the face to the name. Let's see if we
> >>  > can
> >> spread
> >>  > the word and get more people there, perhaps letting the computer
> >> societies
> >>  > know at the colleges??
> >>  > http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-ie/1278/detail/ [2]
> >>  >
> >>  >
> >>  > Laura
> >>  >
> >>  >
> >>  >
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