<html> <head> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"> </head> <body> <div> <div style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri,sans-serif">Hey, The PPA your talking about isn't just solely Ubuntu GNOME's developers. It is a general ppa for all Ubuntu based OS's. It is the upstream repository they (Ubuntu GNOME) use before including it in the mainline repository. This means it is maintained independently of Ubuntu GNOME. So the bugs you are referring too are inherent from GNOME developers not the developers here. Aside from the version error, which I don't see as that big of a deal. Regards, Martin Sent from my Windows Phone</div> </div> <div dir="ltr"> <hr> From: <a href="mailto:reclusivegeek@yahoo.co.uk">Paul</a> Sent: ‎3/‎05/‎2014 12:12 AM To: <a href="mailto:amjjawad@gnome.org">amjjawad@gnome.org</a> Cc: <a href="mailto:ubuntu-gnome@lists.ubuntu.com">ubuntu-gnome</a> Subject: Re: ubuntu-gnome14.04 </div> <div class="BodyFragment"> <div class="PlainText">Thanks for your reply The big question is how did so many major bugs appear in the final release that were not present in the beta testing releases ? I accept the point about nothing being perfect and I would not expect that. The point I was trying to make was this. Bugs that have been marked high priority have no developers assigned in 3.10 the release version of gnome yet we get gnome 3.12 in the staging ppa and developers working on that. So just simple question is the priority getting the bugs fixed in the new release or moving on to the next release ? On Fri, 2014-05-02 at 17:00 +0400, Ali/amjjawad wrote: > Hi and thanks for your reply but please make sure to hit Reply To All > so that everyone read your email as this is a mailing list not an > communication between two people only :) > > > > On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 4:31 PM, Paul <reclusivegeek@yahoo.co.uk> > wrote: > Obviously not. But I did notice that it was added 2 days after > I > downloaded 14.04 !!. > > > We don't release any version unless we finish the release notes and > publish that at the same time we publish the announcement :) > > > This is the release notes: > <a href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseNotes/UbuntuGNOME">https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseNotes/UbuntuGNOME</a> > > > This is the known bug: > <a href="https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-control-center/+bug/1299912"> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-control-center/+bug/1299912</a> > > > It has been reported in: > 2014-03-30 > > > Why we couldn't fix it on time before the release? > > We couldn't for many reasons that I will leave it to the developers > and/or packaging team to comment on :) > > > > > > > I do appreciate that a lot of work went into 14.04 but I must > say that > there is a awful lot of bugs in it. Two weeks on from the > release still > a lot of the network-manager addons are not working to mention > just one. > > > 1- Nothing is prefect :) > > 2- Expecting something to work perfectly is a story and 'getting > involved' and 'do' something to help Ubuntu GNOME and deal with a > 'huge burden' is something totally different and another story. > > 3- Lack of manpower + tight Ubuntu Schedule is another story. > > > That said, you can't really expect something to work with zero bugs. > That is just not logical and will never happen. There will be always > bugs ;) > > > > Maybe my understanding of an LTS release is wrong but I > understood this > was aimed at the enterprise. Hence the release date being in > the middle > of the Redhat/CentOS conference. > > <a href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LTS">https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LTS</a> > > > I think when you review the 14.04 LTS release you need to ask > who your > target user is because quite clearly being in the middle and > trying to > satisfy both solid and stable as well as bleeding edge is not > working. > > "I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to > please everybody." > > > This is what I personally believe in :) > > > We know nothing is perfect. We know there are some mistakes and bugs. > We haven't said Ubuntu GNOME is No.1 as there is no such thing as > No.1 .. however, we haven't given up and with the so limited manpower, > we got the LTS Status: > > <a href="http://ubuntugnome.org/lts-status/">http://ubuntugnome.org/lts-status/</a> > > > IMHO, that was our huge achievement despite all the bad and down > things we have. > > And, as always, we promise to do our best and learn from the past for > a better future :) > > > > Thank you for your feedback, we highly appreciate that :) > > > > > On Fri, 2014-05-02 at 16:09 +0400, Ali/amjjawad wrote: > > > > > > On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 4:05 PM, Paul > <reclusivegeek@yahoo.co.uk> > > wrote: > > Has anyone else noticed that if you go into > > settings->details->overview > > it report ubuntu 13.10. > > > > The system was a clean install of gnome 14.04 from > the install > > DVD have > > attached the source.list and cant see anything > wrong. > > > > > > Hi, > > > > Kindly have a read at: > > > <a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-gnome/2014-April/001897.html"> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-gnome/2014-April/001897.html</a> > > > > > > > > > > Anyone else get the same thing > > > > > > > > -- > > Ubuntu-GNOME mailing list > > Ubuntu-GNOME@lists.ubuntu.com > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > > > <a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-gnome">https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-gnome</a> > > > > > > > > Thank you! > > > > > > > > -- > > Best Regards, > > > > amjjawad > > Remember: "All of us are smarter than any one of us." > > > > > > > > Ubuntu GNOME OneStopPage > > > > Join Ubuntu GNOME > > > > Test Ubuntu GNOME > > > > Contact Ubuntu GNOME > > > > Download Ubuntu GNOME > > > > > > > -- > Best Regards, > > amjjawad > Remember: "All of us are smarter than any one of us." > > > > Ubuntu GNOME OneStopPage > > Join Ubuntu GNOME > > Test Ubuntu GNOME > > Contact Ubuntu GNOME > > Download Ubuntu GNOME -- Ubuntu-GNOME mailing list Ubuntu-GNOME@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: <a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-gnome"> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-gnome</a> </div> </div> </body> </html>