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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 02/28/2014 01:28 AM, Ali/amjjawad
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          <div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 4:54 AM,
            Michael Gratton <span dir="ltr"><<a
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                On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 4:01 AM, Ali/amjjawad <<a
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                  Hi everyone,<br>
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                  Kindly treat this email and this call for testing as
                  high priority and urgent.<br>
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                  Please have a read:<br>
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                    href="http://ubuntugnome.org/trusty-tahr-beta-1-candidate/"
                    target="_blank">http://ubuntugnome.org/trusty-tahr-beta-1-candidate/</a><br>
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                  As always, thank you for your support and we're
                  waiting for your testing :)<br>
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              Cool! So is this apt-get dist-upgradeable?<span class=""><font
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            <div>Hi,<br>
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            <div>That was an old email ;)<br>
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            <div>We're testing now Beta 1 - <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/Testing">https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/Testing</a><br>
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            <div>And soon, we will back to test the daily images.<br>
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            <div>Kindly keep in mind that in order to help Ubuntu GNOME
              with the testing process, you're required, as always, to
              test only the 'latest' build. Testing an old build is
              pointless and useless. <br>
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            <div>Those who are involved with testings need always to
              keep an eye on the QA mailing list of Ubuntu GNOME and <a
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                href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/Testing">https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/Testing</a><br>
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            <div>If there is any Q or anything wrong with that Wiki
              Page, please do shout at me. Send me directly or send to
              the list.<br>
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            <div>Thank you!<br>
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              P.S.<br>
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            <div>In order for any test to be really helpful, tester is
              required to always do a clean and fresh install :)<br>
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            <div>Using any kind of upgrade is less helpful.<br>
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    I would respectfully disagree. With a six month release cycle and a
    nine month support cycle I'd very much appreciate some help testing
    the 'release-upgrader' properly. Properly is a key word, eg;<br>
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    To upgrade Ubuntu GNOME Saucy to Ubuntu GNOME Trusty Beta 1 simply
    execute the command "update-manager -d" in the terminal. No sudo is
    required, nor is it preferred!<br>
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    To upgrade Ubuntu GNOME Saucy to Ubuntu GNOME Trusty Daily simply
    execute the command "update-manager -d -c" in the terminal. Again no
    sudo is required, nor is it preferred!<br>
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    Bug filing against the 'release-upgrader' is still a bit confusing
    to me, but official documentation indicates that "ubuntu-bug
    ubuntu-release-upgrader-core" should usually be sufficient, just be
    sure to include the log files contained in "/var/log/dist-upgrade/".
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              Why?<br>
              Because the installation process is the very first thing
              that everyone needs to test. A system that can't be
              installed is 100% useless and thus, we must test the
              testing process :)<br>
              I will keep repeating this until I make sure everyone is
              aware of this :)<br>
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    Yes, the more testing the better! One bad installation experience
    can turn a user against a distro forever! So those of us who don't
    mind blowing things up from time to time are key to producing a
    pleasant end result.<br>
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    Lance<br>
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